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If you mean being able to distinguish between algae and protists, I definitely agree.

Additionally, medical microbiology may sometimes group things taxonomically, based on their attributes. But generally, I've found from experience that only higher-end tests even touch medical microbiology. The average test would cover maybe basic cell bio as it pertains to microbes, and maybe ask about some diseases and whatnot. I would say what Alex has already said: don't focus on memorizing the various categories of whatever, unless you've built up a solid foundation of knowledge already.
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Alex-RCHS wrote:
Thunderlight8 wrote:I have two questions

How do you do those microscope points of view questions?

And are eukaryotic supergroups like Excavata and stuff on there?
Points of view? Do you mean field of view, as in field diameter? If so, there are two main ways that I can think of:
1. If you know the size of one object in the field of view, then you can set up a ratio based on what fraction of the field of view that object takes up. For example, with a 100 um diameter object taking up 1/5 of the field of view:

(100um)/(x um) = 1/5

Where x is the diameter of the field of view, in um. Then you rearrange it and get:

x = (100 um)/(1/5), so x = 500 um.

The other way to do it is using the Field Number, aka the FOV number. This is a number usually found inscribed on the ocular. The field diameter is equal to the Field Number divided by the objective magnification. This makes sense, because at higher magnifications the field diameter will drop. The Field Number is usually measured in mm, I believe.

2. This event is not a taxonomy/ID event at all, however it could come up. If you are an extremely advanced team that has covered every other part of the rules in serious depth, then diving into microscopic eukaryote taxonomy is reasonable, but if not I would only study the basics of bacterial and viral taxonomy. Even then, I don't like tests that ask questions about any taxonomy; I don't think it is covered in the rules (but that's just a personal thing; you probably will find bacterial/viral taxonomy on the more difficult tests so it's worth studying).

Edit: Just realized that, for your second question, you may be referring to the organisms in that supergroup and not the taxonomy of the group itself. In that case I would say that it's worth knowing some stuff about any major group of microscopic organisms. My best advice is to go by the rules, and the most relevant rule in this case is 3d4: "Differences (e.g., size, environment, structure, prokaryotic vs. eukaryotic, etc.) among... protozoans."
Thanks for the detailed answer!

For the eukaryotic groups, is it worth using up part of my note sheet for them?

Also, sample question 4d on the rules doesn't seem to contain enough information. How would I do that?
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Thunderlight8 wrote: Thanks for the detailed answer!

For the eukaryotic groups, is it worth using up part of my note sheet for them?

Also, sample question 4d on the rules doesn't seem to contain enough information. How would I do that?
In my opinion it’s not worth the space.

I’m not sure how you would do 4d actually. Normally I would expect more info.
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Alex-RCHS wrote:
Thunderlight8 wrote: Thanks for the detailed answer!

For the eukaryotic groups, is it worth using up part of my note sheet for them?

Also, sample question 4d on the rules doesn't seem to contain enough information. How would I do that?
In my opinion it’s not worth the space.

I’m not sure how you would do 4d actually. Normally I would expect more info.
I think the questions are just examples of questions that are allowed to be asked. Normally you’d need the field of view of one of the magnifications.
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On the Viral Disease list, for 2018 it says Hepatitis, does anyone know which type specifically? A,B,C,D,E?
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acekic2004 wrote:On the Viral Disease list, for 2018 it says Hepatitis, does anyone know which type specifically? A,B,C,D,E?
Fairly certain it’s all 5.
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The48thYoshi wrote:
acekic2004 wrote:On the Viral Disease list, for 2018 it says Hepatitis, does anyone know which type specifically? A,B,C,D,E?
Fairly certain it’s all 5.
Yes, definitely know information on all five.
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whythelongface wrote:
The48thYoshi wrote:
acekic2004 wrote:On the Viral Disease list, for 2018 it says Hepatitis, does anyone know which type specifically? A,B,C,D,E?
Fairly certain it’s all 5.
Yes, definitely know information on all five.
Yea it's all 5 but also know about the 2 hypothetical ones
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Nano1llus10n wrote:
whythelongface wrote:
The48thYoshi wrote:
Fairly certain it’s all 5.
Yes, definitely know information on all five.
Yea it's all 5 but also know about the 2 hypothetical ones
It’s certainly good to know as much as you can about everything related to this event, but of all of the knowledge you might need hypothetical viruses are pretty low on the list.
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Alex-RCHS wrote: It’s certainly good to know as much as you can about everything related to this event, but of all of the knowledge you might need hypothetical viruses are pretty low on the list.
I didn't even know about them until now, and it's never, ever cropped up on any test I've taken, probably because they don't actually cause hepatitis.
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