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Re: Anatomy B/C
Posted: April 21st, 2010, 7:49 pm
by mali_16
tclme elmo wrote:
That one's not the best, but I don't know what to tell you.
I have just discovered that there is apparently: the extensor digitorum (hand), the extensor digitorum brevis (foot), and the extensor digitorum longus (foot).
I just want clarification that the one we need to learn is the one in the hand?
Also, is there such thing as origin, insertion, and function for the Thoracolumbar Fascia? I have that it:
-covers deep muscles of back
-attaches medially to spines of vertebrae - inferiorly to ilium (pelvic bone)
-Provides for muscle attachments
But that's not necessarily origin, insertion, and function.
The extensor digitorum muscle is the one in the hand..so it is not either brevis or longus.
As far as I understand it, thoracolumbular fascia is dense connective tissue to which the latissimus dorsi muscle is joined. Its function is in load transfer from spine to legs. I wasn't able to find an origin and insertion though.
This is what wikipedia says:
Thoracolumbular fascia: It is made up of three layers, anterior, middle, and posterior. The anterior layer is the thinnest and the posterior layer is the thickest. Two spaces are formed between these three layers of the fascia. Between the anterior and middle layer lies the quadratus lumborum muscle. The erector spinae muscle is enclosed between the middle and posterior layers.
Above, it passes in front of the Serratus posterior superior and is continuous with a similar investing layer on the back of the neck—the nuchal fascia.
In the thoracic region the lumbodorsal fascia is a thin fibrous lamina which serves to bind down the Extensor muscles of the vertebral column and to separate them from the muscles connecting the vertebral column to the upper extremity.
It contains both longitudinal and transverse fibers, and is attached, medially, to the spinous processes of the thoracic vertebræ; laterally to the angles of the ribs.
Re: Anatomy B/C
Posted: April 22nd, 2010, 4:10 pm
by zoproeg
Do we need to know the origin/points of insertion for all the muscles??? If you have any tips on how to memorize those please share

Re: Anatomy B/C
Posted: April 22nd, 2010, 4:22 pm
by mali_16
If you have already been to State, please tell what was hard or unexpected in the test?
What would you suggest to add to the note sheet?
Yes, we do need to memorize the origin, insertion and function of the 50 major skeletal muscles for nationals and if you are ambitious about States. What I did was I memorized how I use each muscle in my daily life. Other than that, I just did straight forward memorization.
Re: Anatomy B/C
Posted: April 22nd, 2010, 4:35 pm
by tclme elmo
mali_16 wrote:If you have already been to State, please tell what was hard or unexpected in the test?
What would you suggest to add to the note sheet?
Yes, we do need to memorize the origin, insertion and function of the 50 major skeletal muscles for nationals and if you are ambitious about States. What I did was I memorized how I use each muscle in my daily life. Other than that, I just did straight forward memorization.
Just anything you really don't know can go on your sheet.
Might as well put on the 50 origins insertions and functions.
Re: Anatomy B/C
Posted: April 23rd, 2010, 3:03 pm
by paleonaps
Yeah, but that takes up space. I haven't been to states yet (stupid coordinators.....THREE WEEKS IF WE MAKE IT TO NATS) but I think it is good to memorize.
Any tips on memorizing the muscles of the lower arm?
Re: Anatomy B/C
Posted: April 25th, 2010, 7:41 pm
by colombiano
At state we weren't asked to label a single muscle much less insertion or origin
Re: Anatomy B/C
Posted: April 26th, 2010, 4:29 am
by doctor
really?
wow
not a single muscle?
as for memorizing the muscles on ur forearm, i too have trouble
memorize it, make a song, write it on ur arm, idk
Re: Anatomy B/C
Posted: April 26th, 2010, 11:57 am
by paleonaps
Yeah, the muscles on the forearm are a pain. I am just going to put them on my notes sheet.
States is Saturday. I don't think ill ever be ready.
Re: Anatomy B/C
Posted: April 26th, 2010, 1:14 pm
by dvd
I don't know if anyone took the Solon Invitational test, but the whole entire tie breaker was muscle shapes. Do you think we need to know these for the state competition, and if so, should we put it on our cheat sheet?
EDIT: If anyone has a website, can they include that too? Thanks a ton.
Re: Anatomy B/C
Posted: April 26th, 2010, 3:42 pm
by paleonaps
What do you mean by muscle shapes?