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Eh, maybe a replica or something (like the human skeleton in health class).
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amerikestrel wrote:
AlphaTauri wrote:But anyways, skeletal material means they give you the skeleton of a bird (like this) and you have to figure out what bird it is or what family.
I doubt that they would have that complete of a skeleton... they'd probably just give you a smallish piece and then ask you more general questions about it. At least, that's how I interpreted the rules.
At our invitational, they had a small complete skeleton, and we had to write the name of the bone for the corresponding number.
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In Herpetology last year it was not uncommon to get pictures of full skeletons or skulls and you would have to identify certain bones and identify what kind of organism it came from. I would expect similar questions in Ornithology. Also it would be good to know how bird skeletons are different from other kinds of animals. Adaptions for flight would be a big one.
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I remember one herpetology test from last year where we were shown a skeleton. There were some bones labeled and, instead of just saying the name of the bone, we had to say what kinds of adaptations they were part of. A similar thing could be used for birds this year.
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amerikestrel wrote:
Am I Smart wrote:this question is for the people who have done this before.
What does it mean by skeletal material?
Recorded songs?/ I dont get it
Unless you're a grad, you haven't done this event before, as the last time this was an event was (I think) 2002 or 2003.

By skeletal material, it most likely means that there will be a piece of a bird's skeleton and you have to either identify it or answer questions about it. But I'm not sure what kinds of questions there would be... does anyone else have an idea?

And recordings of songs is just as it says; there will be recordings of bird songs/calls and you will have to identify the bird.
How do know what birds are with what songs???
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Am I Smart wrote:How do know what birds are with what songs???
Um, study? Two sites that other people have mentioned:
http://macaulaylibrary.org/index.do
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/NetCommuni ... x?pid=1189
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I think last year in A+R for states we had a skeleton of a turtle. it was only the one.
edit: sorry, one question, we are allowed to add post-its to the pages and write on them correct?
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Am I Smart wrote: How do know what birds are with what songs???
I was a bit concerned with learning the calls, because there doesn't seem to be a better method than just finding recordings of songs and listening to them and associating them with the bird they come from. Just remember that your official list will tell you what birds you need to learn calls for, you don't have to learn the calls of every bird. If you are still worried listen to Deeisenberg:
Deeisenberg wrote: There may be a few people who get at some competition a test with many bird call. Despite this most tests will probably have no bird calls if they are run as a station test (as opposed to a power point) for what I consider obvious reasons. There could still be bird calls on such a test at the end after all stations are completed, this happened to me in Herpetology last year at states (I wish all tests were made as well as that one). If the test is a power point, they would still probably only devote one slide to calls. Testing on calls is actually slightly bothersome and can interfere with the flow of a test. I mean you will almost certainly not have a slide with bird calls and other things except perhaps for some questions about the call. That is just an awkward way to run things, especially because power points are usually hoped to be run very automatically.

The most likely thing is that there will either be no calls, a few calls which would be similar to one station at the end of a station test, or a power point test where there is one slide (probably the last slide) devoted to bird calls.

Bird calls are unlikely to be a very major portion of any test. I'm not saying don't study them (do study them), just saying that you are unlikely to get a test where calls are more than say 5% of the test.
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in A+R we actually did have a frog call, where it was set up on a boombox of some sort, and you could hear it before you got to it. there's always a chance that this might happen
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sewforlife wrote:I think last year in A+R for states we had a skeleton of a turtle. it was only the one.
edit: sorry, one question, we are allowed to add post-its to the pages and write on them correct?
"teams may tab the guide and write on any of these"
sorry for my incompetence. :cry: :oops:
Unfortunately, I do not believe you are allowed to do that. This was answered earlier in this thread. You are allowed to tab the guide, but you may not use regular post its to tab it. And you cannot attach papers inside of the book, but you can write in the book itself. So, not post it notes. :|

I believe that's the conclusion that was reached earlier.
Paradox21 wrote: I was a bit concerned with learning the calls, because there doesn't seem to be a better method than just finding recordings of songs and listening to them and associating them with the bird they come from.
I'm going to put the calls onto my ipod, put them on shuffle, and try to identify them. Though they probably will make only a small portion of the competition, it is still important.
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