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Re: Elastic Launched Glider C

Posted: April 19th, 2013, 3:12 pm
by Orange714
It's on the tentative list of events. x3
Just out of curiosity,could I see this tentative list of events? Also, any help for my above post would be great (:

Re: Elastic Launched Glider C

Posted: April 19th, 2013, 7:38 pm
by jander14indoor
Orange714 wrote:Just out of curiosity,could I see this tentative list of events?
Hmm, problematic answering that.

NSO plans out tentative future events rotations to help manage writing the rules.

For example the flying events are on a six year rotation, two years some variant of Wright Stuff, two years of some variant of helicopters, and two years of some variant of gliders, with the events rotating down from div C to div B. Div C finished two years of helicopters last year, div B has started them this year. Div C started gliders this year, can expect them back next year. Then Wright Stuff will likely come back to div C and some form of gliders move into div B.

Most of the events have some rotation plan like that. Towers, Bridges and Boom rotate as a group. Etc.

The rules writers and state directors have access to the total plan, and occasionally it gets circulated wider. But, its in the protected area of the NSO website, so I'm not the right person to release it. That's a decision of senior management at NSO. If you look around on this site, I think you'll find an old one, can't comment on its accuracy now, though it was valid at one time.

And I'll foot stomp TENTATIVE from above. The plans have changed many times and will do so in the future. They are adjusted as the standards change, as people come up with new ideas, or as old ones just don't work in practice.

You'll see the likely events for next year start floating around after the national tournament, though I caution it isn't final till you see the books in September.

I'll also say that about this time ambitious students start looking to next year and want to work on those rules early. I say this every year, DON'T sweat that. Yes the rules will change and yes you will need to adapt. BUT, we don't change things THAT much. If you work on improving your glider ability under this years rules, you will still be way ahead of anyone waiting to start when they see next years rules. And when we change to Wright Stuff, practicing over the summer to a prior year copy of the rules will have you light years ahead of those who wait for the official rules in the fall. The basic principles for flying, structure building, wheeled vehicles are the same and worth learning. Then the details we throw in the rules become just that, details you can handle, not completely new learning.

Sorry, jumping off soap box.

Jeff Anderson
Livonia, MI

Re: Elastic Launched Glider C

Posted: April 19th, 2013, 10:12 pm
by Orange714
I remember reading a post from wayyyy back from the old scioly boards-the not so nicely organized ones- and they were talking about how there was going to be a flying rotation similar to boomi-bridge-towers. On an unrelated note, should bending the TE of the Stab increase decalage?

Re: Elastic Launched Glider C

Posted: April 25th, 2013, 3:32 pm
by baker
Solar power plane - Why such a large rudder?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5WmnLIN1sw

Re: Elastic Launched Glider C

Posted: April 25th, 2013, 6:10 pm
by wlsguy
baker wrote:Solar power plane - Why such a large rudder?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5WmnLIN1sw
I'll take a stab at a possible answer.
"Normal" planes control their flight with flaps on both the wings and stab.
Since this plane appears not to have these control surfaces (or smaller ones) the rudder would need to be larger to compensate.

Re: Elastic Launched Glider C

Posted: April 27th, 2013, 5:17 pm
by musicalcoconut
Does anyone know what the winning time was at Ohio State, and how high the ceiling was?

Re: Elastic Launched Glider C

Posted: April 27th, 2013, 11:40 pm
by 2346273454
For the Virginia state tournament, the elastic launch glider winner was McLean High School, with a combined score of 27.2s, with a 16 foot ceiling.

Re: Elastic Launched Glider C

Posted: April 28th, 2013, 8:05 am
by Taost
We're not sure yet, but for PA the winning time was at least double that, but I believe our ceilings were much higher. For our team, one of our flight times was around 25 seconds.

Re: Elastic Launched Glider C

Posted: April 28th, 2013, 2:06 pm
by Orange714
West-Lake won ELG, I don't know their official scores but I timed one of their practice runs which was in the range of 37 secs (well I think it was them at least...unless multiple teams had 30+ flights, in which case I may be mistaken)

Re: Elastic Launched Glider C

Posted: April 28th, 2013, 2:49 pm
by musicalcoconut
How high was the ceiling in the room where they got 37 seconds?