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How do you even ID any of these salamanders, really? This is so difficult...

ScottMaurer19 wrote:

otterian317 wrote:Mudpuppies have 4 limbs where as sirens only have 2 front limbs. Also, mudpuppies have very large fluffy and sometimes red external gills were as sirens have smaller external gills. Also mudpuppies can vocalize.

I thought the vocalization of mud puppies was a misnomer?

I haven't seen anything definitive either way, although I rushed a bit going through salamanders.

Fellas, while we're on the subject of salamanders, does anyone have a definitive way of identifying family Salamandridae and Plethodontidae?

herp list says Microhylidae – narrow-mouth toads, but every source i searched, microhylidae is narrow mouth frogs, not toads?

Haha great answer, always lovin' the community here.

Almandine wrote:Haha great answer, always lovin' the community here.

No need to be passive aggressive. He was just pointing out his own observation.
As for your question, in the terrestrial stages salamandridae has rough skin.
If they give u a picture of an aquatic stage salamandridae, you can often tell by looking at the tail

So I'm trying to go deeper in depth for making species cards for my binders, and I have a question.

So banded geckos are technically family Eublepharidae. Should I still refer to them as family Gekkonidae, because that's what appears on the official sheet?

rc2000 wrote:So I'm trying to go deeper in depth for making species cards for my binders, and I have a question.

So banded geckos are technically family Eublepharidae. Should I still refer to them as family Gekkonidae, because that's what appears on the official sheet?

Hopefully the proctor would not mess up and make a question on a family not even on the list as you propose, but if they did I would choose whichever group the specimen would best fit into, in your stated situation I would answer Gekkonidae (always go off of the list).

Kyanite wrote:

rc2000 wrote:So I'm trying to go deeper in depth for making species cards for my binders, and I have a question.

So banded geckos are technically family Eublepharidae. Should I still refer to them as family Gekkonidae, because that's what appears on the official sheet?

Hopefully the proctor would not mess up and make a question on a family not even on the list as you propose, but if they did I would choose whichever group the specimen would best fit into, in your stated situation I would answer Gekkonidae (always go off of the list).

Thanks!

Quick question about salamanders, I noticed a comment about mudpuppies and sirens.

Are the legs in either of these genera vestigial structures, or are they used?