Re: Illinois 2017
Posted: March 12th, 2017, 2:08 pm
So the reason behind the closed Avogadro isn't legal. It does hit on the issue of combined Varsity and JV, but not for the reasons you touched on. At state where there is A/AA that grouping is simply for medal purposes. In theory an A team could finish in the top 2 and get a nationals bid. If this happens the seeding committee really messed up but it is possible. All teams in a division, whether A or AA, are ultimately competing against each other.
For Varsity and JV that isn't the case. Varsity teams are ultimately competing against Varsity teams and JV teams against JV. No JV team will ever get a bid to go to state. By having them grouped together you could skew the results. Here's an example using a hypothetical 6 team, 4 event competition
A Varsity 1 6 1 1 9
B Varsity 2 1 2 2 7
C Varsity 3 3 3 3 12
A JV 4 2 4 5 15
B JV 5 4 5 4 18
C JV 6 5 6 6 23
At first glance team B wins. They have the fewest points. However since it's IL policy to only rank Varsity against Varsity and JV against JV the real results according to our policy are:
A Varsity 1 3 1 1 6
B Varsity 2 1 2 2 7
C Varsity 3 2 3 3 11
A JV 1 1 1 2 5
B JV 2 2 2 1 7
C JV 3 3 3 3 12
So Team A is actually the winner.
So beyond confusion, and beyond it being discouraging for Varsity teams to be beaten by JV teams, the combined grid could actually present incorrect information.
Hope that helps.
Congrats to Daniel Wright, Stevenson, Latin, and Hinsdale on their wins yesterday. Just three more regionals left to go.
For Varsity and JV that isn't the case. Varsity teams are ultimately competing against Varsity teams and JV teams against JV. No JV team will ever get a bid to go to state. By having them grouped together you could skew the results. Here's an example using a hypothetical 6 team, 4 event competition
A Varsity 1 6 1 1 9
B Varsity 2 1 2 2 7
C Varsity 3 3 3 3 12
A JV 4 2 4 5 15
B JV 5 4 5 4 18
C JV 6 5 6 6 23
At first glance team B wins. They have the fewest points. However since it's IL policy to only rank Varsity against Varsity and JV against JV the real results according to our policy are:
A Varsity 1 3 1 1 6
B Varsity 2 1 2 2 7
C Varsity 3 2 3 3 11
A JV 1 1 1 2 5
B JV 2 2 2 1 7
C JV 3 3 3 3 12
So Team A is actually the winner.
So beyond confusion, and beyond it being discouraging for Varsity teams to be beaten by JV teams, the combined grid could actually present incorrect information.
Hope that helps.
Congrats to Daniel Wright, Stevenson, Latin, and Hinsdale on their wins yesterday. Just three more regionals left to go.