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Re: Entomology B/C
Posted: October 3rd, 2013, 4:39 pm
by isalva
My understanding is that there is one double sided sheet of rules, plus the Audubon guide. also I believe that they are allowed to ask you to identify common name in addition to order and family
Re: Entomology B/C
Posted: October 3rd, 2013, 5:43 pm
by silverheart7
I agree, one guide and one notesheet. I almost wish we could have two like last year, but I'm not sure if it would be necessary anyway. I assume they can, as I have seen a few Forestry tests ask for the common names. However... More likely than not, I'm expecting to see the scientific order/family names. Correct me if I'm wrong, it's my first year with bugs

Re: Entomology B/C
Posted: October 6th, 2013, 9:58 am
by Gemma W
Does anyone know about any specific discrepancies between the NWF guide and the Audubon? I'm using the NWF for now, unless it turns out to have a lot of missing/inconsistent info.
Re: Entomology B/C
Posted: October 6th, 2013, 10:11 am
by silverheart7
Gemma W wrote:Does anyone know about any specific discrepancies between the NWF guide and the Audubon? I'm using the NWF for now, unless it turns out to have a lot of missing/inconsistent info.
Oh hey, it was so good to see you the other day!
I bought both as well, but what worries me is the statement in the rules about the taxonomic scheme of the Audubon being the correct information to use in competition. I haven't gotten around to it yet, but I'm planning to check for differences in classification and information. If there aren't many, I think I'll go NWF as well.
Re: Entomology B/C
Posted: October 6th, 2013, 1:09 pm
by caseyotis
I think that only having one guide is going to make it pretty difficult... >.> Especially if each station has two IDs.
Re: Entomology B/C
Posted: October 6th, 2013, 7:02 pm
by silverheart7
caseyotis wrote:I think that only having one guide is going to make it pretty difficult... >.> Especially if each station has two IDs.
I agree, especially because I'm a total control freak. It's probably best to split up the list and devote as much of it to memory as possible, that way neither partner needs the guide for anything other than the trivia.
Re: Entomology B/C
Posted: October 6th, 2013, 7:31 pm
by shaistings
Hey guys I'm new to Entomolgy. I have done Rocks and Minerals, Forestry, and Ornithology. I'm a little confused with the list. I understand there are Orders and Families, but why don't some of the orders have families under them? Also within each family are we supposed to know every insect or just specific ones? Thanks for all the help

Re: Entomology B/C
Posted: October 7th, 2013, 2:57 am
by Flavorflav
shaistings wrote:Hey guys I'm new to Entomolgy. I have done Rocks and Minerals, Forestry, and Ornithology. I'm a little confused with the list. I understand there are Orders and Families, but why don't some of the orders have families under them? Also within each family are we supposed to know every insect or just specific ones? Thanks for all the help

For most orders you will not be asked to ID past the order level. You will not be asked to ID any insect below the family level, but you could be given any member of the family as an example.
Re: Entomology B/C
Posted: October 7th, 2013, 3:52 am
by caseyotis
shaistings wrote:Hey guys I'm new to Entomolgy. I have done Rocks and Minerals, Forestry, and Ornithology. I'm a little confused with the list. I understand there are Orders and Families, but why don't some of the orders have families under them? Also within each family are we supposed to know every insect or just specific ones? Thanks for all the help

For the insects that don't have families, they will be easy enough to identify with just the order, as they either don't have many families, or they just share similar distinguishing characteristics. Some orders have families just to make it tougher for Division C. These families will have distinguishing characteristics as well, so an insect from any genus of that family will be presented.
Has anyone else used cals.ncsu.edu for bug studying? I've found it very helpful.
Re: Entomology B/C
Posted: October 7th, 2013, 7:37 am
by shaistings
caseyotis wrote:shaistings wrote:Hey guys I'm new to Entomolgy. I have done Rocks and Minerals, Forestry, and Ornithology. I'm a little confused with the list. I understand there are Orders and Families, but why don't some of the orders have families under them? Also within each family are we supposed to know every insect or just specific ones? Thanks for all the help

the insects that don't have families, they will be easy enough to identify with just the order, as they either don't have many families, or they just share similar distinguishing characteristics. Some orders have families just to make it tougher for Division C. These families will have distinguishing characteristics as well, so an insect from any genus of that family will be presented.
Thanks for the help. This is going to be a fun event!