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Re: Fossils B/C

Posted: October 15th, 2018, 6:38 pm
by dxu46
jlordhe wrote:Can Rocks and Minerals help
Yeah, there are some sedimentary rocks on the Fossils list :)

Re: Fossils B/C

Posted: October 21st, 2018, 12:20 pm
by dxu46
How does one distinguish from Ammonoidea and Dactylioceras? Dactylioceras is an ammonite, so why does the list have both the subclass Ammonoidea and the genus Dactylioceras?

Re: Fossils B/C

Posted: October 21st, 2018, 12:23 pm
by Unome
dxu46 wrote:How does one distinguish from Ammonoidea and Dactylioceras? Dactylioceras is an ammonite, so why does the list have both the subclass Ammonoidea and the genus Dactylioceras?
Generally you wouldn't really distinguish them, just note that you might be asked to identify any genus of ammonoid to the subclass level.

Re: Fossils B/C

Posted: October 21st, 2018, 12:29 pm
by dxu46
Unome wrote:
dxu46 wrote:How does one distinguish from Ammonoidea and Dactylioceras? Dactylioceras is an ammonite, so why does the list have both the subclass Ammonoidea and the genus Dactylioceras?
Generally you wouldn't really distinguish them, just note that you might be asked to identify any genus of ammonoid to the subclass level.
Then why is it on the list instead of as a category with specific genuses under it?

Re: Fossils B/C

Posted: October 21st, 2018, 1:09 pm
by UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F
dxu46 wrote:
Unome wrote:
dxu46 wrote:How does one distinguish from Ammonoidea and Dactylioceras? Dactylioceras is an ammonite, so why does the list have both the subclass Ammonoidea and the genus Dactylioceras?
Generally you wouldn't really distinguish them, just note that you might be asked to identify any genus of ammonoid to the subclass level.
Then why is it on the list instead of as a category with specific genuses under it?
Probably just because it's numbered and to make it clear that you have to identify ammonoids to the subclass level.

Re: Fossils B/C

Posted: October 21st, 2018, 1:31 pm
by Unome
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
dxu46 wrote:
Unome wrote: Generally you wouldn't really distinguish them, just note that you might be asked to identify any genus of ammonoid to the subclass level.
Then why is it on the list instead of as a category with specific genuses under it?
Probably just because it's numbered and to make it clear that you have to identify ammonoids to the subclass level.
Exactly. According to the new rule on taxonomy, if it wasn't in the list you should not be asked to identify the taxon.

Re: Fossils B/C

Posted: October 21st, 2018, 1:39 pm
by dxu46
Unome wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
dxu46 wrote: Then why is it on the list instead of as a category with specific genuses under it?
Probably just because it's numbered and to make it clear that you have to identify ammonoids to the subclass level.
Exactly. According to the new rule on taxonomy, if it wasn't in the list you should not be asked to identify the taxon.
But then why is Ammonoidea an identifiable class and not, say, Gastropoda?

Re: Fossils B/C

Posted: October 21st, 2018, 1:41 pm
by UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F
dxu46 wrote:
Unome wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote: Probably just because it's numbered and to make it clear that you have to identify ammonoids to the subclass level.
Exactly. According to the new rule on taxonomy, if it wasn't in the list you should not be asked to identify the taxon.
But then why is Ammonoidea an identifiable class and not, say, Gastropoda?
By the almighty wisdom of the rules council

Re: Fossils B/C

Posted: October 21st, 2018, 2:00 pm
by Unome
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
dxu46 wrote:
Unome wrote: Exactly. According to the new rule on taxonomy, if it wasn't in the list you should not be asked to identify the taxon.
But then why is Ammonoidea an identifiable class and not, say, Gastropoda?
By the almighty wisdom of the rules council
They are all identifiable classes. Reread 3.d.ii.

Re: Fossils B/C

Posted: October 21st, 2018, 2:09 pm
by UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F
Unome wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
dxu46 wrote: But then why is Ammonoidea an identifiable class and not, say, Gastropoda?
By the almighty wisdom of the rules council
They are all identifiable classes. Reread 3.d.ii.
I disagree. It just says "taxonomic classification". I assume that means classifying identifiable specimens according to the taxonomy on the list.