Unome wrote:Fayetteville-Manlius invitational results:
1. Syosset (109)
2. Brighton (188)
3. Abington Heights (202)
4. Syosset (238)
5. Cicero-North Syracuse (241)
6. Syosset (243)
7. North Pocono (274)
8. Camden (299)
9. North Pocono (309)
10. Chittenango (317)
Full Scores
Syosset looks fairly strong. I don't know the scene well enough to say anything more.
Hm, interesting, I was curious when FM results would come out. Unless I forget, the big contenders for 1st other than Syo there would maybe be Brighton / Abington Heights (not saying other teams aren't a challenge at all, they are especially at individual events). But I don't think they've gotten THAT good in the past few years (at least noting that Syo usually does comparatively well when stacked for invites), even with Syo's recent crop being bad (not as in everyone's bad...just not enough good people for some reason) / various leadership issues recently. Note, I don't think this has been said, but Syo's team-coach dynamic has totally changed recently, so it's hard to say what'll happen this year with them.
Likely Islip would've been a better comparison, even with the logistical issues. I would say this shows Syo CAN get top 10 at least. But looking at the events, unless they seriously improve or are deciding to restack teams a little (which sometimes happens only for a few events), then it's quite hard to say. They'll also be going to MIT, among way too many invites, so I'll wait to judge further after that. One thing I do notice is that the B and C teams are very close, and this makes sense knowing some of the younger siblings I've personally heard about from friends that are pretty good on each of the teams, which is unusual (Syo B normally has a batch of close contenders for A spots, instead of B and C being virtually neck and neck -- possibly a result of the tryout / coaching differences?).
Edit: One other interesting thing is that FM didn't note 1st in a few events (obviously I am always aware of checking astro placements!). If not a typo, me suspects this is them placing themselves? Would be interesting to see how they compare to Syo at this stage...
Edit2: From quickly adding, there's some interesting results! Their golds were astro, ecology, optics, and remote (no surprises, these are events that FM is typically very good at), while their worst were hovercraft (15th), widi (11th), and 7th (game on). Overall, I found a score of 77 ignoring the 4 builds, so assuming each build is ~6th, then that gets them up to 101. On the other hand, I suspect most of their builds are probably fine / great, so this is where a lot of the speculation can come in (I personally think they probably got sub-100 for sure in any case). Syo definitely is strong, just not as strong as FM right now (though, things like Fermi, Herpetology, Rocks, etc can be improved pretty readily).
This and Islip provides some interesting potential rankings for States. Probably FM, Ward, Columbia still at the top. What'll be interesting is to see how GNS, Spackenkill, Mount Academy, Syo compare (well, it's bad to leave Townsend Harris / Kellenberg out based on Islip logistics...they could also get in there too). I think NOW I can wait on some of the other invites.