Mission Possible C

[ScottMaurer19]

I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on coaching this event. None of my kids want to do it this year, and the one kid who said he'd do it just informed me that he's not doing SciOly this year after all This event is very hard, so none of the kids want to even try to attempt it. We're pretty competitive when it comes to other events, but if we don't do this event at all, it'll severely lower our chances at regionals.
We live in PA, so we still have roughly 2 months before our regional competition. I think if we start now, we could at least HAVE a device. Does anyone have any advice on where to start or how to make it less scary for the kids to approach? It seems like a cool event, but my kids won't go anywhere near it. At this point, I just want a decent device to make sure this event doesn't make us tank at regionals. Like I said, we're a pretty competitive team, so I think we could make up for a mediocre MP score, but definitely not for a no-show.

Try for 4-5 easy tasks, start, end, single battery bonus, and a sand timer or such, in a small box. That should score upwards of 850 points.

I 3D printed a 1cm by 1 cm box that had a magnet hanging on one side holding up a watch battery got a ton of size points, one battery bonus and the start action. I just removed the magnet and the battery moved and that was my device. Scores 550 ish points.

Based on the rules the device technically needs to say "the end" and start with removing a magnet in order to count for more than participation points. The rules state that the device MUST start by removing a magnet and end by saying "the end" so unfortunately a well read ES would not let a device in which you just remove a magnet count.

[Ashernoel]

Our current design doesn’t have all 12 tasks but I think if I were to rebuilt it I wouldnt get more than 90 bonus size points.. one of our tasks is too big..

[ScottMaurer19]

Our current design doesn’t have all 12 tasks but I think if I were to rebuilt it I wouldnt get more than 90 bonus size points.. one of our tasks is too big..

Focus on reducing the size of that one task?

[dmis]

Try for 4-5 easy tasks, start, end, single battery bonus, and a sand timer or such, in a small box. That should score upwards of 850 points.

I 3D printed a 1cm by 1 cm box that had a magnet hanging on one side holding up a watch battery got a ton of size points, one battery bonus and the start action. I just removed the magnet and the battery moved and that was my device. Scores 550 ish points.

Based on the rules the device technically needs to say "the end" and start with removing a magnet in order to count for more than participation points. The rules state that the device MUST start by removing a magnet and end by saying "the end" so unfortunately a well read ES would not let a device in which you just remove a magnet count.

Why would you consider that participation? I could see tier 2 for construction violations, but just for not saying "the end" shouldn't reduce a device to participation based on my reading. The argument could come down to "failed to operate autonomously after starting" though, and having no action may not satisfy that requirement.

[ScottMaurer19]

I 3D printed a 1cm by 1 cm box that had a magnet hanging on one side holding up a watch battery got a ton of size points, one battery bonus and the start action. I just removed the magnet and the battery moved and that was my device. Scores 550 ish points.

Based on the rules the device technically needs to say "the end" and start with removing a magnet in order to count for more than participation points. The rules state that the device MUST start by removing a magnet and end by saying "the end" so unfortunately a well read ES would not let a device in which you just remove a magnet count.

Why would you consider that participation? I could see tier 2 for construction violations, but just for not saying "the end" shouldn't reduce a device to participation based on my reading. The argument could come down to "failed to operate autonomously after starting" though, and having no action may not satisfy that requirement.

Tiering is probably more accurate

[Kyanite]

Based on the rules the device technically needs to say "the end" and start with removing a magnet in order to count for more than participation points. The rules state that the device MUST start by removing a magnet and end by saying "the end" so unfortunately a well read ES would not let a device in which you just remove a magnet count.

Why would you consider that participation? I could see tier 2 for construction violations, but just for not saying "the end" shouldn't reduce a device to participation based on my reading. The argument could come down to "failed to operate autonomously after starting" though, and having no action may not satisfy that requirement.

Tiering is probably more accurate

Can you cite where in the rules?

[ScottMaurer19]

Why would you consider that participation? I could see tier 2 for construction violations, but just for not saying "the end" shouldn't reduce a device to participation based on my reading. The argument could come down to "failed to operate autonomously after starting" though, and having no action may not satisfy that requirement.

Tiering is probably more accurate

Can you cite where in the rules?

3 b
3 e/g (if there is no final action than no action can contribute to it)

[Kyanite]

Tiering is probably more accurate

Can you cite where in the rules?

3 b
3 e/g (if there is no final action than no action can contribute to it)

I didnt have the rulebook with me I cant find where I saved it. And thanks for pointing that out.

[ScottMaurer19]

Can you cite where in the rules?

3 b
3 e/g (if there is no final action than no action can contribute to it)

I didnt have the rulebook with me I cant find where I saved it. And thanks for pointing that out.

I caught that the other day while helping to build one. It is directly stated but grouped in with other items in such a way that it is hard to notice.
I would quote it but forum rules say we aren't supposed to do that too much

[Zonz6975]

I have a question regarding the use of a sensor. In my current design, I use a TMP36 sensor connected to an Arduino to record a decrease in temperature during a certain chemical reaction. When the sensor records a certain temperature drop, the Arduino turns on a speaker which serves as the final action. The reaction takes several minutes for the temperature change. I've used this design at several invitationals, and the event supervisors have never brought up that this might be against the rules. Based on your interpretation of the rules, would this be a construction violation?