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eyeball138 wrote:Although I'm not going to purposely kill the game by not choosing a next assassinator, if the game dies on it's own, if too many people lose interest for any reason, the games will be over. Right, now, a lot of people are really worked up, and I won't be choosing an assassinator for about the next week or two. You make a good point Nejanimb, if people still want to play, they should, however, if another problem arises in the next game, it would be mayhem, and I'd expect the game to be over for good.

If the game manages to continue, the EOOTA probably will be changed. Basically, other ideas are being considered such as elections for 3-4 people, a google group for better communication between the EOOTA, leaving all administrative power with the previous assassinator, or disbanding the EOOTA all together.

Hey, how come when I suggested the same thing, you disagreed with me, but you said that Nejanimb made a good point?

Anyway, I just say we do away with the EOOTA, and let everyone make decisions. This game is too insignificant to warrant all this trouble for voting in people, using a google group, etc.
The next assassinators just have to be responsible enough to use prudence when they add new rules, so theyre not making ridiculous changes. If theyre not, then how about the officers make a vote, majority rules? That seems like the easiest way.

You know this is insane.
KarateKid44 you are being a hypocrite. You have stated a ton that you would love to be assassinator and now you all of a sudden say you want the game to die?? Gyourkoshaven a similar thing can be said about you. You've always been involved and wanted to be assassinator now after you have been all of a sudden you decide oh I want the games to die. Also what nejanimb said is exactly right.

Though heres what bug s me the most. Almost all of you have listened only to what robotman said--until his whole 2 assassinator thing got cut down in a democratic fashion he was a big supporter of the EOOTA. THen this whole thing happens, he flips out and a lot of you have jumped on his bandwagon acting as if all that he said is completely true. IT'S NOT. None of you have any idea how things would be without the EOOTA. You all say make things like the original game it worked fine. Explain to me how starpug and tehkubix managing to hack the game is perfectly fine? We have made many small decisions that effect the game that none of you even notice. When a major decision is made we pm all of the members to make sure it is a fair and balanced process.

Here are some things that have been done (in my short time as a member):
We reverted the rules in an effort to allow more people to participate back to the anyone can post format.
The time limit penaltys were established in an effort to make the game go faster.
Made sure people couldn't rig the game
We make sure rules aren't teribly unfair and will overhaul them to make it better--but typiclly rules are left to the assassinator
Efforts are made to try to make the game as good as possible. Some ideas work some don't thats how it is. For those of you upset about not knowing anything about whats going on....this is what the google group would be for.


Also to those who say a delay is what we need that is the exact oppisate of what we need. The next game shuld be started so we can all get this rediculous stuff out of our heads. The EOOTA has actualy been trying to scale back on what we do but issues keep coming up that we feel are necessary to resolve and I can tell you there is know way this could be resolved by you people alone it would be way too disorganized and hard to keep track of.

In closing, people IT'S A GAME lets just get the next one started and move on with it so we can forget this sillyness.

I hpe sky doesn't mind I do this since it was on the google group but I think its important you guys see this:
Hey guys,

It looks like things are getting blown way out of proportion, here.
The purpose of the EOotA is to provide rough oversight of the game to
make sure that nothing terribly unfair is going on. If something
majorly wrong happens, the EOotA can vote to remove the current
Assasinator. If the motion passes, SiegeLord will then take control
of the account and either the former Assasinator, or the winning
officer, will choose the next person. But as far as rules of the game
go, we only have a kind of honorary position to respectfully make our
opinions known.


For the record, I think that the game has been a success overall. In
over a year of play, this is only the third time that I have been
involved in an issue. The first for the issue with Tehkubix, the
second for an issue with Ichaelm and the last being this issue. For
the amount of participation on the forum this gets, I think the
complaint rate is pretty low. I just hope we aren't causing any
headaches for DarkSabre.


Also, I apologize if I caused any hard feelings with my post last
night. I did spout off without understanding the entire situation.
Even now I am not sure who the Assassinator is. With that said, it
appears to me that both Assassinators have been discovered by
officers. Therefore, it would seem fair that the officer(s) who made
the discovery should choose another Assassinator, who can then decide
whether or not he wants to have a partner in crime. Allowing the
current arguing to continue probably isn't helping anyone. If we just
move on to a new game, it should blow over.


Sky

hypocrite or not still lets just put it to a vote of

Scioly Assassination
No Scioly Assassination

EOOTA
No EOOTA

vote for either one if you still dont wanna do it and fine well then its hopeless because youll just keep fighting and fighting

This has gotten rather... well nevermind. There are things here that I disagree with, but I really don't have the energy required or even the wish to address.
So yes, lets just start a new game, and hopefully it will blow over, as sky has also said.

Hey guys just an Idea I had that I think could make the game much more interesting and allow more people to have a role in being an assassinator (kind of) and hopefully perhaps be able to speed up games.

We would make an account called Apprentice. Here are rules about it.

1. The apprentice would be selected by whoever is picked to be assassinator.

2. The same rules would apply involving the password and the transfer of the account (only the Apprentice would trasfer the info rather than the assassinator)

3. When someone makes an accusation it accuses someone of being the Assassinator and the Apprentice, they don't have to be seperate accusations.

4. If someone discovers the identity of the Apprentice, they are allowed to ask a YES or NO question to the apprentice about the assassinator. These questions can range from "Is the assassinator......" to "Is the assassinator in division B?" to "Is the assassinators favorite food cheese?" (:P)

5. If the assassinator is caught before the Apprentice the game ends, but if the Apprentice is caught first the game continues like normal

6. This is the role of the Apprentice: They could post clues if requested to by the assassinator, they could respond to protects or accusations and of course they would answer the question if found out.

7. The Assassinator and apprentice should try to make their beginning of the game posts right after each other or the Assassinator can post both sets of rules.

8. It is recommended that the Assassinator uses the Apprentice but the Assassinator does not have to

Feedback would be appreciated. If a mod says it ok I may make a poll it's easier to see if people like the idea. If people like it, I'll make the account and we can go from there.

EDIT: One more rule I thought of

Oh my frickin' wright stuff plane that stays aloft for 4 seconds!!!!! You guys are giving me headaches...and I rarely ever get headaches. This is a game. A game. I know it has definitely gotten more seriously as time went on, but we can't ignore the fact that this is still a game. And we will still play it as a game. It used to be just a game to get people's minds off of other things and to be a somewhat challenge that they can...enjoy (?)...Now there is like some sort of schism here and and we're taking this all too seriously. If we have to end this game...so be it. But this is getting really stupid just fighting over this stuff. I think I'll shut up now.

fmtiger124 wrote:Hey guys just an Idea I had that I think could make the game much more interesting and allow more people to have a role in being an assassinator (kind of).

We would make an account called Apprentice. Here are rules about it.

1. The apprentice would be selected by whoever is picked to be assassinator.

2. The same rules would apply involving the password and the transfer of the account (only the Apprentice would trasfer the info rather than the assassinator)

3. When someone makes an accusation it accuses someone of being the Assassinator and the Apprentice, they don't have to be seperate accusations.

4. If someone discovers the identity of the Apprentice, they are allowed to ask a YES or NO question to the apprentice about the assassinator. These questions can range from "Is the assassinator......" to "Is the assassinator in division B?" to "Is the assassinators favorite food cheese?" (:P)

5. If the assassinator is caught before the Apprentice the game ends, but if the Apprentice is caught first the game continues like normal

6. This is the role of the Apprentice: They could post clues if requested to by the assassinator, they could respond to protects or accusations and of course they would answer the question if found out.

7. The Assassinator and apprentice should try to make their beginning of the game posts right after each other or the Assassinator can post both sets of rules.

Feedback would be appreciated. If a mod says it ok I may make a poll it's easier to see if people like the idea. If people like it, I'll make the account and we can go from there.

We could try it, but I'm not really in favor of changing the game for that.

soobsession wrote:Oh my frickin' wright stuff plane that stays aloft for 4 seconds!!!!! You guys are giving me headaches...and I rarely ever get headaches. This is a game. A game. I know it has definitely gotten more seriously as time went on, but we can't ignore the fact that this is still a game. And we will still play it as a game. It used to be just a game to get people's minds off of other things and to be a somewhat challenge that they can...enjoy (?)...Now there is like some sort of schism here and and we're taking this all too seriously. If we have to end this game...so be it. But this is getting really stupid just fighting over this stuff. I think I'll shut up now.

finally. someone who agrees. im gonna stop now too.

ohmy frikin' bridge at regions. haha

WARNING: THIS POST MAY CONTAIN A SENSE OF HYPOCRISY. FOR NOW MY OPINION LIES IN THIS POST.
I still stand by my opinion on the EOotA: not make it an exclusive group, but available to everybody participating in the game. Really nothing said in there needs to be very private, except maybe bans.
On the note of the game, i've had second thoughts with all the recent posts. I agree with nejanimb on if you don't want it, don't play it. I also do like the idea of an Apprentice. We could just refine the rules a little for it and at least try it for one game. It would add a nice new twist.

here's my two cents on ths:

1. everyone give it a break. then let this thread die off like all the other assassination threads.

2. eyeball - you should prob wait at least a week before sending an invitation to your chosen assassinator.
This will allow everyone to calm down for a bit.

3. future assassinator - revamp the rules as you see fit (but not outrageous please), and use "apprentice" if you desire.
(this would be like a trial round to see how the apprentice idea works out)
Ask the EOOTA for help if you want. (?) You should prob wait another week too.

4. EOOTA - take minimal action despite change of rules. only get involved if it's really necessary.

5. Everyone is invited to play! Everyone may also choose not to play. I, for one, will be sad to see the games go.
Like nejanimb, I believe we can find a way to make this game work!