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It really depends on the size of the bucket, I guess. I've only seen four or five gallon buckets at competition, but one gallon buckets are hard enough to hit even if the measurements are correct. Moving a one gallon bucket just a tiny way one way or another can cost a team 50 points, and at higher level competitions, 50 points could mean the difference between first and not even getting a medal. Remember, the event supervisor must replace the bucket on the course when a team wants a bucket shot, so there's no guarantee it's going to be in exactly the same spot every time.

It should be though. If they have it marked off correctly, it should have a millimeter or two at the most for tolerance.

Of course there's always a possibility of less-than-careful event supervisors, which is a shame.

If they aren't measuring correctly, that really screws up the results of the whole event. Especially if the targets are off. That's doing a bad job running the event.

I agree that they should be precise in their measurements, but I never trust the supervisors. It's too important to risk.

Two things:
1) when you are measuring you cannot measure too accurately without touching the bucket which is a penalty.
2) also it is a lot easier to make sure the bucket is just about in the right place(few mm) than measure the diagonal distance.

This is getting tiring. Yes, you can measure accurately very easily without touching the target. I do it all the time. If you really think about it it's fairly easy. And... there's almost nothing easier than pulling a tape measure to a target. I've presented my arguments, I feel there is no need to continue this discussion. We're just repeating what's already been said.

HELP HELP OUR TRAJECTORY PWNS BUT WE HAVE LIKE NO TIME ( 2 days) to get all the data for the graphs before invitationals

germinator wrote:HELP HELP OUR TRAJECTORY PWNS BUT WE HAVE LIKE NO TIME ( 2 days) to get all the data for the graphs before invitationals

Well then I guess you have to get all the data you can and simply extrapolate for any other points. It should be simple enough to get basic data to fulfill the Graph requirement in 2 days.

On a forum edicate note, it is rather impolite and annoying to type in all caps. If you want to place emphasis, that is what the exclamation point is for.

starpug wrote:

germinator wrote:HELP HELP OUR TRAJECTORY PWNS BUT WE HAVE LIKE NO TIME ( 2 days) to get all the data for the graphs before invitationals

Well then I guess you have to get all the data you can and simply extrapolate for any other points. It should be simple enough to get basic data to fulfill the Graph requirement in 2 days.

On a forum edicate note, it is rather impolite and annoying to type in all caps. If you want to place emphasis, that is what the exclamation point is for.

I didn't actually do Trajectory, but I helped my friend on another WM team extensively with the event; he got 6th at Regionals today, and had literally 10 actual tested data points (all tested within the past two days, by the way), and only at two different heights: ground and 2m. The close target was at 1m20. He hit both targets, although kind of toward the edge.
Moral of the story: you can theoretically do fine (especially at a Regional competition) without perfect data, as long as you know your device pretty well.

And as a side note: are you sure you want to encourage people to use a lot of exclamation points, starpug? How about we amend that to "That is what a single exclamation point is for." xD

This event seems to have many, many, many problems if the ceiling is too low.

This is true we got 1st place in trajectory today but many of the other teams missed the target because the ceiling was too low, we were fortunate enough to pass without a problem