Mission Possible C

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saathvikb02 wrote:Do you guys think HCL would be considered a "hazardous chemical" as stated in rule 2.d?
Also, if your reaction releases hydrogen, that would be banned as a flammable gas.
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I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on coaching this event. None of my kids want to do it this year, and the one kid who said he'd do it just informed me that he's not doing SciOly this year after all :cry: This event is very hard, so none of the kids want to even try to attempt it. We're pretty competitive when it comes to other events, but if we don't do this event at all, it'll severely lower our chances at regionals.
We live in PA, so we still have roughly 2 months before our regional competition. I think if we start now, we could at least HAVE a device. Does anyone have any advice on where to start or how to make it less scary for the kids to approach? It seems like a cool event, but my kids won't go anywhere near it. At this point, I just want a decent device to make sure this event doesn't make us tank at regionals. Like I said, we're a pretty competitive team, so I think we could make up for a mediocre MP score, but definitely not for a no-show.
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thegreengreatdragon wrote:I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on coaching this event. None of my kids want to do it this year, and the one kid who said he'd do it just informed me that he's not doing SciOly this year after all :cry: This event is very hard, so none of the kids want to even try to attempt it. We're pretty competitive when it comes to other events, but if we don't do this event at all, it'll severely lower our chances at regionals.
We live in PA, so we still have roughly 2 months before our regional competition. I think if we start now, we could at least HAVE a device. Does anyone have any advice on where to start or how to make it less scary for the kids to approach? It seems like a cool event, but my kids won't go anywhere near it. At this point, I just want a decent device to make sure this event doesn't make us tank at regionals. Like I said, we're a pretty competitive team, so I think we could make up for a mediocre MP score, but definitely not for a no-show.
Try for 4-5 easy tasks, start, end, single battery bonus, and a sand timer or such, in a small box. That should score upwards of 850 points.
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Unome wrote:
thegreengreatdragon wrote:I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on coaching this event. None of my kids want to do it this year, and the one kid who said he'd do it just informed me that he's not doing SciOly this year after all :cry: This event is very hard, so none of the kids want to even try to attempt it. We're pretty competitive when it comes to other events, but if we don't do this event at all, it'll severely lower our chances at regionals.
We live in PA, so we still have roughly 2 months before our regional competition. I think if we start now, we could at least HAVE a device. Does anyone have any advice on where to start or how to make it less scary for the kids to approach? It seems like a cool event, but my kids won't go anywhere near it. At this point, I just want a decent device to make sure this event doesn't make us tank at regionals. Like I said, we're a pretty competitive team, so I think we could make up for a mediocre MP score, but definitely not for a no-show.
Try for 4-5 easy tasks, start, end, single battery bonus, and a sand timer or such, in a small box. That should score upwards of 850 points.
Levers are pretty easy as well.
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Unome wrote:
thegreengreatdragon wrote:I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on coaching this event. None of my kids want to do it this year, and the one kid who said he'd do it just informed me that he's not doing SciOly this year after all :cry: This event is very hard, so none of the kids want to even try to attempt it. We're pretty competitive when it comes to other events, but if we don't do this event at all, it'll severely lower our chances at regionals.
We live in PA, so we still have roughly 2 months before our regional competition. I think if we start now, we could at least HAVE a device. Does anyone have any advice on where to start or how to make it less scary for the kids to approach? It seems like a cool event, but my kids won't go anywhere near it. At this point, I just want a decent device to make sure this event doesn't make us tank at regionals. Like I said, we're a pretty competitive team, so I think we could make up for a mediocre MP score, but definitely not for a no-show.
Try for 4-5 easy tasks, start, end, single battery bonus, and a sand timer or such, in a small box. That should score upwards of 850 points.
I 3D printed a 1cm by 1 cm box that had a magnet hanging on one side holding up a watch battery got a ton of size points, one battery bonus and the start action. I just removed the magnet and the battery moved and that was my device. Scores 550 ish points.
If you cant find someone to make one. An easy machine is = get one of those speakers offline where you record a sound on it (they are about 5 cm by 5 cm by 4 cm) and then glue a section of cardboard to one side and have a magnet hold a weight up and then you remove the magnet weight drops hits button and says the end. = 100 for start, 166 for size, 250 for end action 100 for single battery bonus = 616 and then the points for write up and such. This would make you fairly competitive against other machines that dont use all 12 actions.
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ScottMaurer19 wrote:
saathvikb02 wrote:Do you guys think HCL would be considered a "hazardous chemical" as stated in rule 2.d?
Really depends on the concentration.
pH wise, the EPA considers anything between pH 2-12.5 as hazardous. Vinegar is 2.4 and 30% vinegar is 2.2

There are other factors, but that's something to consider
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Thanks for the tips, guys! I've got practice on Monday, so I'll see what my builders say. Fingers crossed they'll find it a bit less intimidating when I tell them of your guys' approaches.
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Would a push button switch be counted as a spring timer? I’m not using the switch to power a circuit- just to complete one.
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Ash123 wrote:Would a push button switch be counted as a spring timer? I’m not using the switch to power a circuit- just to complete one.
As long as the button doesn't take more than 10 seconds to press it's not a timer. Usually push buttons use a bimetallic strip instead of a spring too
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thegreengreatdragon wrote:I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on coaching this event. None of my kids want to do it this year, and the one kid who said he'd do it just informed me that he's not doing SciOly this year after all :cry: This event is very hard, so none of the kids want to even try to attempt it. We're pretty competitive when it comes to other events, but if we don't do this event at all, it'll severely lower our chances at regionals.
We live in PA, so we still have roughly 2 months before our regional competition. I think if we start now, we could at least HAVE a device. Does anyone have any advice on where to start or how to make it less scary for the kids to approach? It seems like a cool event, but my kids won't go anywhere near it. At this point, I just want a decent device to make sure this event doesn't make us tank at regionals. Like I said, we're a pretty competitive team, so I think we could make up for a mediocre MP score, but definitely not for a no-show.
Personally, I'd recommend going for something with a Lego Mindstorms NXT with a sensor input to trigger the "The End" to get at least one task, and see which simple actions you can get in along the way. Adding in a breadboard would also probably be a good way to go, and is something I really regret not installing.
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