Scioly Assassination 39: Sepolcro di Dispiacere

[SOninja]

sweetcoop's idea. i agree with it.

[sewforlife]

Here is what i think. We should give the current Assassinator account back to skystrider so he can revamp it but that he Messages Eyeball when he is done and has Eyeball pick the Next Assassinator so Eye can still get his prize and the game is revamped.

I like this idea better than Aia's original

[croman74]

In the beginning, this game was just made for fun. However, this game has gotten so complicated that the whole point has been clouded. First off, the EOOTA was established, which honestly should have no power over the game whatsoever. They basically have voted themselves into it, and it's just the people that spend their time on chat. I think that any topics discussing the game should be talked about in the game so that everybody would be able to see it. The EOOTA shouldn't know exclusive info; the players of the game should know and be able to affect the changes to the game being played. I've kinda pulled away from the game due to the fact that it became so complicated. The rules need a complete makeover, as many have said before my post. Assassinations are way more fun when it's a game without any of the drama.

[starpug]

Fine if you guys are so big on no EOOTA, let's have a few games with it. You'll regret it when someone decides that without an EOOTA they can do whatever they want as assassin. If you guys want it I guess we can do it. Only problem is, from the votes I've seen the EOOTA wants to stay intact.

Despite what the legends say, Sky is NOT a god. You think they can fix this, I kinda doubt it. What is needed is either to shutdown the game, and figure out something else to do to waste our time, or we could take our time and figure this out together rather then dumping it on one person and expecting them to fix it.

[sweetcoop]

Fine if you guys are so big on no EOOTA, let's have a few games with it. You'll regret it when someone decides that without an EOOTA they can do whatever they want as assassin. If you guys want it I guess we can do it. Only problem is, from the votes I've seen the EOOTA wants to stay intact.

Despite what the legends say, Sky is NOT a god. You think they can fix this, I kinda doubt it. What is needed is either to shutdown the game, and figure out something else to do to waste our time, or we could take our time and figure this out together rather then dumping it on one person and expecting them to fix it.

Now that you mention it we should all try to figure this out together. and i think that this next game we should do it with out the EOOTA just so everyone knows how crappy this game will be without them.

[gyourkoshaven]

I knew I'd do this at some point...As many people have said, the game has become much more serious as time has progressed. During the 1st couple of games, they were about fun. They are now serious, do not welcome new people, and generally no fun. PEOPLE: IT'S A FREAKING GAME! As much as I'd like not to admit it, I've been a part of the decision making in the last game. But there is absolutely no reason to fight over a little game like this! I mean, why do we need to spend our lives arguing over a rule which decides who controls the person who just posts "Whoever is dead" on a forum full of people that you've mostly never met in your life?
Many people will and have pointed to the foundation of the EOOTA as the day that the games started to go downhill, but more people wanted to become involved, and just as in life, it became more complicated. So the foundation of a governing body was a good thing. And now that the fate of the game is more in question than it ever has been, I have a proposition that I nobody's posted about yet. Let the game die. (Don't worry only I'm capable of making this analogy ) But let's say the game is a deer that's been hit by a car, laying on the side of the road. Would you take the deer somewhere to save its life, where it will probably live for a month without any limbs in pain, or just let it go? Honestly, I'd let the games go. I might even permanently end them, I mean popularity is low, and all good things must come to an end. We should have done the same thing with 5,000 post thread. We got there, let it go. So I propose that the next game be the last, where we get to a good number (40) and then stop the games.

With my usual great paragraph structure,
Gyourkoshaven

[croman74]

Agreed with what gyourkoshaven just said (including the 5,000 post thread). The games are slow now. We should wait at least a few weeks and see how we do without it. Nobody's putting in as much effort as before and it's kinda just dragging on. I say we let this die, like gyourko said. And who knows, maybe it might come back, better than it was before, or a new game might emerge. Let's have one final good game, and let it die for now.

[nejanimb]

I cannot at all understand the people saying that we should do away with the games. What? "Letting something die" like that isn't a conscious decision to be made... why not just have everyone do what they want? I'd still play... honestly, if there are enough people to keep a game going, then I cannot see any possible reason to intentionally cut the games short. If you're not interested in it any more and feel like it should stop, then just don't play. If the 5,000 post thread was enough for you, then don't continue to post in the 10,000 thread or whatever it is. Same with Assassins. I cannot understand why anyone would intentionally kill off something that has zero cost but there is evident demand for.

And, common people. I haven't been involved in the chat discussions at all over the past several days, but this isn't that hard to figure out. The basic tenants of the game are not that complicated: someone gets to use a secret account to post cryptic messages for everyone else to decipher and tries to avoid everyone else figuring out who it is that is using that secret account. The Assassin should be on the site as regularly as possible to update clues and provide information and feedback while the people investigating should try to solve the clues as best they can. The clues should be hard enough to be entertaining and challenging but not so difficult that they are so impossible to solve as to not be fun - *not* figuring something out isn't a whole lot of fun.

This "two assassins" business is clearly illegal. Well, not illegal, since this is a forum game and who cares - anything *technically* goes, but common. It's no fair to everyone else, and it's pretty obvious that that just is not how the game is meant to go. To be honest, I think people trying to check login times or checking IP locations in chat is kinda scummy and against the spirit of the game too, though that's become an ingrained part of the culture of the game.

The problem is that people are trying to be so out of the box and creative as assassins and trying to push the envelope of the spirit of the rules, if not the rule themselves. To be honest, this seems unnecessary. I think the basic principles of the game are really fun and a cool idea. A thread that just said "solve this puzzle" would be cool, but this adds drama and a plot and suspense and intrigue to it! But really. I think just about everyone understands how the game works (after being an observer for just a couple I was able to figure it out) and if people just keep it simple and play the game and enjoy it, then there'd be no problem.

Eyeball picks the next assassinator, as he deserves as his reward, and the next Assassin adds a little message to his introductory post explaining how we ought to try to turn the game around. Since Skystrider seems to be the closest person to someone who runs the game (just because he's the founder), perhaps he should write it, or if the next-picked assassin figures out a reasonable way, then do it. Honestly, this whole concept is just not that hard. I think we can all "play nice" and just have fun with it - I know I enjoy the game very much.

[karatekid44]

First off, what gyourkoshaven said is right, let it die, but then what would you people do? I mean you people are so addicted to it if it dies you would miss it, someone would ressurect it and you qould be jumping for joy. The EOOTA is not needed to make rules approve the assassinators actions or rules that he/she makes up. As it says in the beginning of the game:

I will add these rules when i deem nessecary

The two assassian thing, current assassinator your decision was not a good idea, it caused an uproar on the forum. It also allowed people to post Three pages of spam, people put a vote to it and just let it go. If it dies so what, If it lives so what. You would just have to deal with it.

[eyeball138]

Although I'm not going to purposely kill the game by not choosing a next assassinator, if the game dies on it's own, if too many people lose interest for any reason, the games will be over. Right, now, a lot of people are really worked up, and I won't be choosing an assassinator for about the next week or two. You make a good point Nejanimb, if people still want to play, they should, however, if another problem arises in the next game, it would be mayhem, and I'd expect the game to be over for good.

If the game manages to continue, the EOOTA probably will be changed. Basically, other ideas are being considered such as elections for 3-4 people, a google group for better communication between the EOOTA, leaving all administrative power with the previous assassinator, or disbanding the EOOTA all together.