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Re: Can't Judge a Powder B
Posted: June 24th, 2011, 9:02 am
by Cheesy Pie
Meh. I still prefer inorganic chem.
Re: Can't Judge a Powder B
Posted: June 24th, 2011, 9:05 am
by hpfananu
Cheesy Pie wrote:Meh. I still prefer inorganic chem.
Ditto. Learning some of those things was a nightmare...it took like 5 people to figure out one concept

Re: Can't Judge a Powder B
Posted: June 24th, 2011, 9:11 am
by Cheesy Pie
I think I'd get too hungry doing food science.
Re: Can't Judge a Powder B
Posted: June 24th, 2011, 10:12 am
by anatomy
Cheesy Pie wrote:I think I'd get too hungry doing food science.
wow, haha
but i don't think it involves "cooking"
its just science about food, i'm sure you won't get hungry
organic chem o.o my favorite
Re: Can't Judge a Powder B
Posted: June 25th, 2011, 8:28 am
by gneissisnice
I did Food Science every year since it was introduced when I was in 8th grade (it was a trial at Nats that year), and I even medalled 4th at Nats in 9th grade.
For B division, it's a lot of biochem. Proteins, amino acids, lipids, sugars, etc. Nothing too in depth, but know the building blocks of proteins, lipids, and sugars, what the molecules look like (know all the sugars, but I wouldn't get too hung up on memorizing every structure of every amino acid, you shouldn't have to know more than guanine, alanine, and phenylalanine. But I would suggest knowing every amino acid's name, and whether they're aromatic or not and if they're polar, non-polar, acidic, or basic), and where they get broken down in the body. Also, it's a good idea to study vitamins and their respective deficiencies (e.g. scurvy for vitamin C, rickets for vitamin D), though again, don't worry about their structures. You should also know how the digestive system works, and how food travels through the body.There's also a section on food labels; they'll give you some sample food labels with parts missing and you have to fill them in; you can do this by knowing that proteins and sugars both contribute 4 calories per gram and fat contributes 9 calories per gram. The rest of the written test part is basically just random food knowledge. I've seen questions ranging from cooking techniques to labeling the diagram of an egg to asking us to write observations of broccoli cooked for various times to the question "What is the New York State muffin?" (apple, by the way). As for the lab part, you need to know how different indicator solutions work. Benedict's/Fehling's for monosaccharides (NOT all sugars, sucrose won't change anything in Benedict's), Sudan III and IV for fats, Iodine's (also known as Lugol's) solution for starch, and Biuret's (spelling?) for proteins. I'd also be prepared to do a titration (that's more likely in C division though than B) and to make a bomb calorimeter to measure the calories of something like a peanut.
C division focuses much less on biology and much more on chemistry, much to my chagrin. One event I did at States in division C felt like I got tricked into taking a mixture of Chem Lab and Forensics, with mostly chemistry questions on molarity and titrations and stuff like that rather than anything about food, as well as a section on identifying powders (food powders, but still).
Food Science was one of my all time favorite events, but the problem with it is that it's so broad, they can really ask anything about food at all (though as far as I know, you don't have to cook anything for the lab part). Still, it's a really interesting event, and I'm glad it's back (sorry C division, it's B only this year. I know Phenyl's gonna be upset, it's her favorite event ever and she won't get to do it).
Re: Can't Judge a Powder B
Posted: June 25th, 2011, 9:29 am
by Cheesy Pie
I wish I was in div c now. I don't like biochem that much but I

regular chem!!!
Re: Can't Judge a Powder B
Posted: June 25th, 2011, 9:45 am
by anatomy
hahah same
though i love bio chem
i am quite excited for food science
though i am sad about can't judge leaving, it was one of my favorite events.

Re: Can't Judge a Powder B
Posted: June 25th, 2011, 9:50 am
by Cheesy Pie
I loved cjap! I want il to make it a trial event!
Re: Can't Judge a Powder B
Posted: June 25th, 2011, 9:55 am
by hpfananu
Cheesy Pie wrote:I loved cjap! I want il to make it a trial event!
Since CJAP has been done for so long, I doubt it'll be a trial event. I love it too but food science really is fun and you get to make excuses about studying while all you're doing is baking. But, Food Sci has such a great in world application (it teaches you what you are eating and why) that I think it'll be a great event. Although I guess I'm biased..I've done it 2 years and always gotten first.

Re: Can't Judge a Powder B
Posted: June 25th, 2011, 11:37 am
by gneissisnice
Cheesy Pie wrote:I loved cjap! I want il to make it a trial event!
Powders is by far my least favorite event ever. Tedious, doesn't require you to actually ID the powder, doesn't reward you for putting more observations (it technically does in that the more you have, the better you do, but someone with 40 observations could still beat someone with 300 if they get lucky and the event questions are in their favor) and most importantly, the powders are almost always extremely boring; they're almost always white and barely react with anything.