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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: April 29th, 2013, 6:46 pm
by Vader_
ScienceOlympian wrote:
SciJ wrote:What about Muscatel? They beat Churchill at the Muscatel invite...
But Churchill beat Muscatel at the Churchill Invite
..
LOL :lol:

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: April 29th, 2013, 6:55 pm
by PacificGoldenPlover
Remember, the Churchill invite was in early December, while the Muscatel Invite was in late January.
And, at Muscatel, the 7th place team at SoCal states came within 11 points of beating Churchill A.
Point being: invites aren't really that great as ways of ranking the teams, and state tournaments aren't much better. Too much variability.

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: April 29th, 2013, 7:07 pm
by ScienceOlympian
PacificGoldenPlover wrote:Remember, the Churchill invite was in early December, while the Muscatel Invite was in late January.
And, at Muscatel, the 7th place team at SoCal states came within 11 points of beating Churchill A.
Point being: invites aren't really that great as ways of ranking the teams, and state tournaments aren't much better. Too much variability.
You do have a point.
Now I feel stupid.
Go Muscatel!

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: April 29th, 2013, 7:21 pm
by MHS_Scioly_1
silverheart7 wrote:I think Casey has a strong point. Veterans/highschoolers are a valuable resource for our teams. Gneissisnice for example, is a college student who has helped us on many events. FueL and starshine make appearances to teach, and the others also pass along resources as they find them.

Lots of 'powerhouse' teams have both a B and C component. These are just the ones I know off the top of my head:

Paul J. Gelinas/Robert C. Murphy -> Ward Melville
Eagle Hill -> Fayetteville Manlius
Solon Middleschool -> Solon Highschool
Memorial -> Mentor
Exactly. As a member of the Mentor High School team, we are all very proud of Memorial with all their hard work and accomplishments this season. I am friends with many of the Memorial team members and I know they have cracked down and have worked hard the second they found out they qualified for nationals in addition to their hard work throughout the rest of the season. Plus many of the high schoolers, whether older siblings or not, want to help Memorial do their best. Granted I'm a little biased since I'm with their home city :D but I really do think that they have a good chance at getting into the top 10 at nationals. They have some dedicated members that are willing to do what it takes to do well at Nats. If they continue to work as hard as they are, I wouldn't be surprised if they end up between the 5 to 10 place range.

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: April 29th, 2013, 7:53 pm
by mwloveslm
ScienceOlympian wrote:
PacificGoldenPlover wrote:Remember, the Churchill invite was in early December, while the Muscatel Invite was in late January.
And, at Muscatel, the 7th place team at SoCal states came within 11 points of beating Churchill A.
Point being: invites aren't really that great as ways of ranking the teams, and state tournaments aren't much better. Too much variability.
You do have a point.
Now I feel stupid.
Go Muscatel!
.......remember nationals last year.........and wow........but i agree that invites aren't the best way to rank teams...

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: April 29th, 2013, 7:54 pm
by Vader_
Wait, so what im getting is that Memorial should be in top ten and we should include Muscatel.

Would it look like this than?
1) Solon
2) Daniel Wright
3) Marie Murphy
3) Meads Mill
5) Booth
5) Churchill
5) Muscatel
8) Memorial
9) Paul J Gelinas
10) Strath Haven or Lakeshore

5) Beckendorff (Edit)

Also, a suggestion. Why dont we start a division C one of these?

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: April 29th, 2013, 7:56 pm
by mwloveslm
Vader_ wrote:Wait, so what im getting is that Memorial should be in top ten and we should include Muscatel.

Would it look like this than?
1) Solon
2) Daniel Wright
3) Marie Murphy
3) Meads Mill
5) Booth
5) Churchill
5) Muscatel
8) Memorial
9) Paul J Gelinas
10) Strath Haven or Lakeshore

Also, a suggestion. Why dont we start a division C one of these?
Yeah we should start a C division... except have a new forum....

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: April 29th, 2013, 7:58 pm
by fozendog
Vader_ wrote: Also, a suggestion. Why dont we start a division C one of these?
Agreed. :D

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: April 29th, 2013, 8:03 pm
by death_owl
Vader_ wrote:Wait, so what im getting is that Memorial should be in top ten and we should include Muscatel.

Would it look like this than?
1) Solon
2) Daniel Wright
3) Marie Murphy
3) Meads Mill
5) Booth
5) Churchill
5) Muscatel
8) Memorial
9) Paul J Gelinas
10) Strath Haven or Lakeshore

Also, a suggestion. Why dont we start a division C one of these?
ouch. what happened to Beckendorff?

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: April 29th, 2013, 8:06 pm
by Vader_
death_owl wrote:
Vader_ wrote:Wait, so what im getting is that Memorial should be in top ten and we should include Muscatel.

Would it look like this than?
1) Solon
2) Daniel Wright
3) Marie Murphy
3) Meads Mill
5) Booth
5) Churchill
5) Muscatel
8) Memorial
9) Paul J Gelinas
10) Strath Haven or Lakeshore

5) Beckendorff (Edit)

Also, a suggestion. Why dont we start a division C one of these?
ouch. what happened to Beckendorff?
Oh man I forgot! I knew I missed something, but did not know what.