Would it be worth it for some one new to the event to make an attempt at a 20x8cm base for a tower, or would it not be recommended? Also, with everything above 30cm (or 15cm for division C, I think) needing to be less than (approximately) 5.6cm^2, wouldn't the tower need to be tapered?SLM wrote:We did build a 20 cm x 8 cm Division C tower, weighing 6.9 grams, that held the entire load. The team is working on reducing the weight further.TYG wrote:Has anyone here made a tower with a 20x5cm base that did relatively well?
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From the construction perspective, I think, it is much easier to build a 20cm x 5cm or 8cm tower than a 15cm x 15cm one. Since the tower is rectangular, we build two identical flat sides, like this (bracings not shown):TYG wrote:Would it be worth it for some one new to the event to make an attempt at a 20x8cm base for a tower, or would it not be recommended? Also, with everything above 30cm (or 15cm for division C, I think) needing to be less than (approximately) 5.6cm^2, wouldn't the tower need to be tapered?SLM wrote:We did build a 20 cm x 8 cm Division C tower, weighing 6.9 grams, that held the entire load. The team is working on reducing the weight further.TYG wrote:Has anyone here made a tower with a 20x5cm base that did relatively well?

Then, we have them stand on the legs about 7 to 8 cm apart at the base, and tilt them inward until the two sides are about 1 cm apart at the top, like this (bracings not shown):

Then, we place the bracings to hold the two sides together. This is a fairly straight forward process.
If you are not competing in Virginia, I would be happy to show you a picture of the tower via PM.
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I always had trouble with tapering both sides evenly. Thank you for your explanation, diagrams, and advice. And yeah, may I see a picture of the tower? I am 99.99% sure that I won't be competing anywhere near Virginia. Thanks again
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Does the 20x8 base cut down a lot of weight in terms of bracing? Because your going to have to add more weight for the legs, since they're longer and taking more force, right?
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I did a rough calculation using div B spec, a simple geometry exercise assuming the top tower box dimension at the waist is 5.6cm x 5.6cm and the rectangular base of 20x5.6 vs minimum square base. The result of rectangular vs square: leg length of 30.85cm vs 30.60cm, and angle from horizontal of 76.5 degree vs 78.6 degree. This seems to suggest not a whole lot difference in force or leg length for rectangular tower.lllazar wrote:Does the 20x8 base cut down a lot of weight in terms of bracing? Because your going to have to add more weight for the legs, since they're longer and taking more force, right?
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Here is a simple jig for tapering and aligning the two sides of a 21cm x 8cm tower before putting the side bracings on.TYG wrote:I always had trouble with tapering both sides evenly....

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Oh wow, I don't think I would have ever thought of using double sided scotch tape
Thank you again for all your help
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its complicated to explain but, it turns out the best way to make our tower is while its standing up, does anyone have tips for building a tower while its standing up? i need somthing more than just 'use clamps' ...
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Read back through the posts in this towers forum. Many hints/tips/examples on how to build and use jigs to assemble towers, including standing up. Jig might be a good search term to speed things up. I think there was much discussion under building techniques.waawamellon wrote:<SNIP> does anyone have tips for building a tower while its standing up? <SNIP>
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the bottom of the top part of my tower's 5.6cm
I was planning on making it taper to 5.0cm, but is it necessary to taper it more, like, 3.0cm, to prevent tipping over?
won't that make it weaker?
If i do make it 5.0, should i still make it a bit smaller, ~4.9cm just in case the testing block at competition is not perfect?
thanks
I was planning on making it taper to 5.0cm, but is it necessary to taper it more, like, 3.0cm, to prevent tipping over?
won't that make it weaker?
If i do make it 5.0, should i still make it a bit smaller, ~4.9cm just in case the testing block at competition is not perfect?
thanks