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Posted: **September 10th, 2016, 4:23 pm**

If only PA had invites in the Western regions...

Posted: **September 10th, 2016, 4:39 pm**

bhavjain wrote:If only PA had invites in the Western regions...

Yeah, but you get Ohio invitationals close by.

Posted: **September 10th, 2016, 7:24 pm**

[NerdyTotoro] wrote:Well any state that is completely filled with Asians should be in the 10 Hardest states list... (*coughcough* California is filled with us *coughcough*)

das racist

Posted: **February 8th, 2023, 7:22 pm**

Unome wrote: ↑September 8th, 2016, 5:05 am I'm ranking B and C separately since it matters.

Division B
1. Illinois (DW only needed 90ish to win, plus SAA was 130s)
2. Northern California (Churchill, Kennedy, Wicklund)
3. Ohio (because Ohio)
4. Michigan (Meads Mill, Lakeshore, others that I don't know but are probably good)
5. Southern California (Kraemer, Carmel Valley, Mesa Verde, Jeffrey Trail, etc.)
6. Texas (Beckendorff mostly)
7. New York (PJG and Eagle Hill)
8. Pennsylvania (Springhouse, BC, Shady Side)
9. North Carolina (Piedmont, plus other teams are pretty good with 200+ point scores)
10. Virginia (Longfellow, a few other top teams)

Division C
1. Ohio (Solon, Mentor, Centerville, Mason)
2. Southern California (Troy plus other top teams like Canyon Crest and NoHo)
3. New York (when the top teams have 200+ point scores)
4. Pennsylvania (Harriton, Bayard Rustin, Penncrest, Strath Haven, Conestoga)
5. Northern California (Mira Loma, plus other top teams)
6. Texas (7L, LASA, Clements)
7. Michigan (seems weaker than in B, but still has Northville)
8. Illinois (same as above. Stevenson, New Trier, Hinsdale Central)
9. Georgia (idk I'm running out of options since NC C is weak now. I guess there's Chattahoochee and Brookwood)
10. Indiana (same as above. Hard to tell who the top teams are)

the top team for division C Indiana is Carmel, Munster, and Northridge (in that order). but Northridge is doing well this year and has beat Munster in the Notre Dame competition, Carmel is also spread out more between their two teams and are weaker overall now.

Posted: **April 28th, 2025, 5:51 am**

for B you also now have to think about Harlen Row

Posted: **May 14th, 2025, 11:54 am**

i want to mention that many of the hard states just have 2 or 3 really dominant teams that choke out any other competition

(correct me if im wrong)

Posted: **August 5th, 2025, 5:23 pm**

bhavjain wrote: ↑September 7th, 2016, 9:41 pm
texas wrote:These aren't in order, but here's ten competitive states: Texas, New York, Ohio, Illinois, California, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Virginia (or NC, I haven't decided yet).
Isn't NC mostly known for Piedmont?

Yes!! I’m from nc (coastal plains) (ik you’ve prob never heard of that lol) and piedmont DOMINATES

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