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Re: Codebusters C

Posted: September 19th, 2019, 9:20 pm
by linzhiyan
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no Atbash Cipher this year...?

Re: Codebusters C

Posted: September 19th, 2019, 9:28 pm
by pepperonipi
Name wrote: September 19th, 2019, 7:31 pm
Blank25 wrote: September 19th, 2019, 7:20 pm I've never done Codebusters before and I'm wondering how you are able to decide which cipher to use. Is it given usually? Or do you just have to somehow figure it out? And is this event really hard?
This is just my opinion, but I found code very easy to learn, but impossible to master.
This. Constantly practicing will be your best friend for this event.

Re: Codebusters C

Posted: September 20th, 2019, 5:09 am
by l0lit
linzhiyan wrote: September 19th, 2019, 9:20 pm Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no Atbash Cipher this year...?
There is no atbash cipher according to the rules, although an affine cipher with a = 25 and b = 25 would be the exact same thing :)

Re: Codebusters C

Posted: September 20th, 2019, 8:23 am
by Longivitis
Blank25 wrote: September 19th, 2019, 7:20 pm I've never done Codebusters before and I'm wondering how you are able to decide which cipher to use. Is it given usually? Or do you just have to somehow figure it out? And is this event really hard?
If you're just starting out I suggest you practice the math-based ciphers first because they're really straightforward and generally not that hard to mess up. However, you should spend more time practicing aristo and patristos because they normally make up the bulk of the test and sets the top teams apart (especially the timed question). Study on letter frequencies and common words and you'll eventually get better at it.

https://cryptograms.puzzlebaron.com is a good site to start off on learning aristos and understanding the basics.

Pollux and Morbit ciphers, although new should not be that difficult because the rules state that the test has to give at least 6 out of the 10 possible digits so it's just a matter of brute forcing the others if you're half-decent at morse code (they also have to give you a table so it's a whole lot easier).

Re: Codebusters C

Posted: September 20th, 2019, 2:09 pm
by will0416
Longivitis wrote: September 20th, 2019, 8:23 am
Blank25 wrote: September 19th, 2019, 7:20 pm I've never done Codebusters before and I'm wondering how you are able to decide which cipher to use. Is it given usually? Or do you just have to somehow figure it out? And is this event really hard?
If you're just starting out I suggest you practice the math-based ciphers first because they're really straightforward and generally not that hard to mess up. However, you should spend more time practicing aristo and patristos because they normally make up the bulk of the test and sets the top teams apart (especially the timed question). Study on letter frequencies and common words and you'll eventually get better at it.

https://cryptograms.puzzlebaron.com is a good site to start off on learning aristos and understanding the basics.

Pollux and Morbit ciphers, although new should not be that difficult because the rules state that the test has to give at least 6 out of the 10 possible digits so it's just a matter of brute forcing the others if you're half-decent at morse code (they also have to give you a table so it's a whole lot easier).
^^^ single best website for codebusters. constant addictive practice

Re: Codebusters C

Posted: September 20th, 2019, 2:57 pm
by Name
will0416 wrote: September 20th, 2019, 2:09 pm
Longivitis wrote: September 20th, 2019, 8:23 am
Blank25 wrote: September 19th, 2019, 7:20 pm I've never done Codebusters before and I'm wondering how you are able to decide which cipher to use. Is it given usually? Or do you just have to somehow figure it out? And is this event really hard?
If you're just starting out I suggest you practice the math-based ciphers first because they're really straightforward and generally not that hard to mess up. However, you should spend more time practicing aristo and patristos because they normally make up the bulk of the test and sets the top teams apart (especially the timed question). Study on letter frequencies and common words and you'll eventually get better at it.

https://cryptograms.puzzlebaron.com is a good site to start off on learning aristos and understanding the basics.

Pollux and Morbit ciphers, although new should not be that difficult because the rules state that the test has to give at least 6 out of the 10 possible digits so it's just a matter of brute forcing the others if you're half-decent at morse code (they also have to give you a table so it's a whole lot easier).
^^^ single best website for codebusters. constant addictive practice
too addictive tbh

Re: Codebusters C

Posted: September 20th, 2019, 7:11 pm
by pepperonipi
will0416 wrote: September 20th, 2019, 2:09 pm
Longivitis wrote: September 20th, 2019, 8:23 am
Blank25 wrote: September 19th, 2019, 7:20 pm I've never done Codebusters before and I'm wondering how you are able to decide which cipher to use. Is it given usually? Or do you just have to somehow figure it out? And is this event really hard?
If you're just starting out I suggest you practice the math-based ciphers first because they're really straightforward and generally not that hard to mess up. However, you should spend more time practicing aristo and patristos because they normally make up the bulk of the test and sets the top teams apart (especially the timed question). Study on letter frequencies and common words and you'll eventually get better at it.

https://cryptograms.puzzlebaron.com is a good site to start off on learning aristos and understanding the basics.

Pollux and Morbit ciphers, although new should not be that difficult because the rules state that the test has to give at least 6 out of the 10 possible digits so it's just a matter of brute forcing the others if you're half-decent at morse code (they also have to give you a table so it's a whole lot easier).
^^^ single best website for codebusters. constant addictive practice
I always thought it was cool to see your progress on that site. I've seen that my partners and I start out at "Very Slow" when solving most cryptograms, and then slowly with time, move up to "Slow" and then "Average", and so on.

Re: Codebusters C

Posted: September 25th, 2019, 2:13 pm
by Vortexx2
For the morbit code, are we given the key? I know we have to find the numbers based off of the key, but are we given what each of the numbers mean? Such as 1= . - , 2= -- , etc.?

Re: Codebusters C

Posted: September 25th, 2019, 3:59 pm
by jaggie34
Vortexx2 wrote: September 25th, 2019, 2:13 pm For the morbit code, are we given the key? I know we have to find the numbers based off of the key, but are we given what each of the numbers mean? Such as 1= . - , 2= -- , etc.?
I think we'd be given a keyword or part of a keyword, but it also could just be that we're given a few numbers

Re: Codebusters C

Posted: September 25th, 2019, 5:51 pm
by gz839918
jaggie34 wrote: September 25th, 2019, 3:59 pm
Vortexx2 wrote: September 25th, 2019, 2:13 pm For the morbit code, are we given the key? I know we have to find the numbers based off of the key, but are we given what each of the numbers mean? Such as 1= . - , 2= -- , etc.?
I think we'd be given a keyword or part of a keyword, but it also could just be that we're given a few numbers
This appears to be right. Toebes' website has two sample prompts, one where some digits are given, and another where a keyword is revealed.