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Unome wrote:

WhatScience? wrote:I feel like SOINC should make the policy that the top 10 states at nationals the previous year get a second team.

I can't count the number of times I've seen this suggestion. If you really have something new to add to it, feel free to start a GC thread.

I can't say I agree with this statement: for example, what about New York B? Gelinas was 11th, so does that mean that their 2nd bid would be taken away? I think a better thing to do would be to have many separate state-like competitions with the same tests, and the 2nd place teams from each state would line up, and whichever states are in the top 10 (2nd place) would get to go to nationals.

dxu46 wrote:

Unome wrote:

WhatScience? wrote:I feel like SOINC should make the policy that the top 10 states at nationals the previous year get a second team.

I can't count the number of times I've seen this suggestion. If you really have something new to add to it, feel free to start a GC thread.

I can't say I agree with this statement: for example, what about New York B? Gelinas was 11th, so does that mean that their 2nd bid would be taken away? I think a better thing to do would be to have many separate state-like competitions with the same tests, and the 2nd place teams from each state would line up, and whichever states are in the top 10 (2nd place) would get to go to nationals.

If the NY bid was taken away, it could be replaced by NJ, for example.

And states like Florida would lose their second bid as well, which ups the competitiveness of the tourney.

sciolyperson1 wrote:

dxu46 wrote:

Unome wrote: I can't count the number of times I've seen this suggestion. If you really have something new to add to it, feel free to start a GC thread.

I can't say I agree with this statement: for example, what about New York B? Gelinas was 11th, so does that mean that their 2nd bid would be taken away? I think a better thing to do would be to have many separate state-like competitions with the same tests, and the 2nd place teams from each state would line up, and whichever states are in the top 10 (2nd place) would get to go to nationals.

If the NY bid was taken away, it could be replaced by NJ, for example.

And states like Florida would lose their second bid as well, which ups the competitiveness of the tourney.

Yes, but NY is a very competitive state. I'm not saying that NJ isn't competitive, but I believe my way would work better since it would be a true showdown of skill.

Well maybe you guys were looking for this...?

For schools attending Science Olympiad Invitational Tournament Only:

Due to changes to National Science Olympiad policy, we are required to collect an additional $60 National Science Olympiad registration fee for schools who will be taking more than one team to any specific Invitational Tournament. This fee is for the National Science Olympiad membership fee for your additional team(s) and is not retained by New Jersey Science Olympiad. Separate e-mail communications will be sent to Head Coaches to inquire about which schools are subject to this rule. Additional teams under this rule do count toward New Jersey's membership numbers toward eligibility for additional bids at National Science Olympiad.

I heard very recently that NJ has now capped its regional tournaments due to lack of space with teams on its waitlist. Due to NJ's strong performance nationally and the multitude of strong teams that traditionally place well at competitions, this may give NJ a better chance at getting a second bid. Of course, NJ has always been calling for their second bid due to the big three teams in NJ that are pretty well known to most teams. This, however, does raise the interesting question if this holds for other states as well then as many NJ teams would probably attend the Princeton Invitational.

Raleway wrote:Well maybe you guys were looking for this...?

For schools attending Science Olympiad Invitational Tournament Only:

Due to changes to National Science Olympiad policy, we are required to collect an additional $60 National Science Olympiad registration fee for schools who will be taking more than one team to any specific Invitational Tournament. This fee is for the National Science Olympiad membership fee for your additional team(s) and is not retained by New Jersey Science Olympiad. Separate e-mail communications will be sent to Head Coaches to inquire about which schools are subject to this rule. Additional teams under this rule do count toward New Jersey's membership numbers toward eligibility for additional bids at National Science Olympiad.

I heard very recently that NJ has now capped its regional tournaments due to lack of space with teams on its waitlist. Due to NJ's strong performance nationally and the multitude of strong teams that traditionally place well at competitions, this may give NJ a better chance at getting a second bid. Of course, NJ has always been calling for their second bid due to the big three teams in NJ that are pretty well known to most teams. This, however, does raise the interesting question if this holds for other states as well then as many NJ teams would probably attend the Princeton Invitational.

Do you know when second bids are announced?

WhatScience? wrote:

Raleway wrote:Well maybe you guys were looking for this...?

For schools attending Science Olympiad Invitational Tournament Only:

Due to changes to National Science Olympiad policy, we are required to collect an additional $60 National Science Olympiad registration fee for schools who will be taking more than one team to any specific Invitational Tournament. This fee is for the National Science Olympiad membership fee for your additional team(s) and is not retained by New Jersey Science Olympiad. Separate e-mail communications will be sent to Head Coaches to inquire about which schools are subject to this rule. Additional teams under this rule do count toward New Jersey's membership numbers toward eligibility for additional bids at National Science Olympiad.

I heard very recently that NJ has now capped its regional tournaments due to lack of space with teams on its waitlist. Due to NJ's strong performance nationally and the multitude of strong teams that traditionally place well at competitions, this may give NJ a better chance at getting a second bid. Of course, NJ has always been calling for their second bid due to the big three teams in NJ that are pretty well known to most teams. This, however, does raise the interesting question if this holds for other states as well then as many NJ teams would probably attend the Princeton Invitational.

Do you know when second bids are announced?

I'm pretty sure any team who applies for a second invitational-only team can get one.

pb5754[] wrote:

WhatScience? wrote:

Raleway wrote:Well maybe you guys were looking for this...?

For schools attending Science Olympiad Invitational Tournament Only:

Due to changes to National Science Olympiad policy, we are required to collect an additional $60 National Science Olympiad registration fee for schools who will be taking more than one team to any specific Invitational Tournament. This fee is for the National Science Olympiad membership fee for your additional team(s) and is not retained by New Jersey Science Olympiad. Separate e-mail communications will be sent to Head Coaches to inquire about which schools are subject to this rule. Additional teams under this rule do count toward New Jersey's membership numbers toward eligibility for additional bids at National Science Olympiad.

I heard very recently that NJ has now capped its regional tournaments due to lack of space with teams on its waitlist. Due to NJ's strong performance nationally and the multitude of strong teams that traditionally place well at competitions, this may give NJ a better chance at getting a second bid. Of course, NJ has always been calling for their second bid due to the big three teams in NJ that are pretty well known to most teams. This, however, does raise the interesting question if this holds for other states as well then as many NJ teams would probably attend the Princeton Invitational.

Do you know when second bids are announced?

I'm pretty sure any team who applies for a second invitational-only team can get one.

I meant for nats.

WhatScience? wrote:

pb5754[] wrote:

WhatScience? wrote:
Do you know when second bids are announced?

I'm pretty sure any team who applies for a second invitational-only team can get one.

I meant for nats.

Oh sorry, my bad.

WhatScience? wrote:

pb5754[] wrote:

WhatScience? wrote:
Do you know when second bids are announced?

I'm pretty sure any team who applies for a second invitational-only team can get one.

I meant for nats.

Early March to early April. I would bet against NJ getting a second bid.

Unome wrote:

WhatScience? wrote:

pb5754[] wrote: I'm pretty sure any team who applies for a second invitational-only team can get one.

I meant for nats.

Early March to early April. I would bet against NJ getting a second bid.

Yeah, I don't think that would happen. We'll need 100+ more teams in order to have a chance at a 2nd bid.