That's actually a solid breakdown!Jacobi wrote:It may not have much merit, but here is my XPD grouping list:OrigamiPlanet wrote:While I certainly do enjoy that idea of teamwork, the only reason our team placed consistently was the independent roles each of us assumed and practiced; now with the new time impediment, this may pose a new challenge in keeping up with the scores now, but then again if other teams did the same they also face the same trouble. Regardless, I would still redistribute (or distribute if you're new) the roles again to try and fit the time management. Just my thought, so take it with a grain of saltdxu46 wrote: The new format seems to emphasize teamwork as the only way to get everything done is to work as a very solid team and communicate well.
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Re: Experimental Design B/C
That's actually quite identical to our format and we missed medaling at ISO state by a whisker.dxu46 wrote:That's actually a solid breakdown!Jacobi wrote:It may not have much merit, but here is my XPD grouping list:OrigamiPlanet wrote:
While I certainly do enjoy that idea of teamwork, the only reason our team placed consistently was the independent roles each of us assumed and practiced; now with the new time impediment, this may pose a new challenge in keeping up with the scores now, but then again if other teams did the same they also face the same trouble. Regardless, I would still redistribute (or distribute if you're new) the roles again to try and fit the time management. Just my thought, so take it with a grain of salt
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Re: Experimental Design B/C
Thanks to both of you for your feedback.TheChiScientist wrote:That's actually quite identical to our format and we missed medaling at ISO state by a whisker.dxu46 wrote:That's actually a solid breakdown!Jacobi wrote:
It may not have much merit, but here is my XPD grouping list:
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Re: Experimental Design B/C
New Question:
On the Statistics section, if we are calculating something advanced like a correlation coefficient, do we have to show all of our steps?
On the Statistics section, if we are calculating something advanced like a correlation coefficient, do we have to show all of our steps?
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I don't think they expect you to calculate a correlation coefficient by hand. You can just write "obtained by calculator" or something.Jacobi wrote:New Question:
On the Statistics section, if we are calculating something advanced like a correlation coefficient, do we have to show all of our steps?
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You don't need sophisticated statistics like that, the most they'd probably expect is standard deviation.Jacobi wrote:New Question:
On the Statistics section, if we are calculating something advanced like a correlation coefficient, do we have to show all of our steps?
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Two things since I'm still trying to understand the new rubric for statistics:dxu46 wrote:You don't need sophisticated statistics like that, the most they'd probably expect is standard deviation.Jacobi wrote:New Question:
On the Statistics section, if we are calculating something advanced like a correlation coefficient, do we have to show all of our steps?
1. Is there a certain number of statistics we should aim calculating?
2. Must every calculation for every statistic be shown?
I'm trying to draft a team layout based upon like certain aspects of each part, so far (if you want to try it go ahead!)
1. The logician (A, B, C, D, H, I, also comes up with topic and deals with paperwork).
2. The analytic (E, J, L, runs and cleans up experiment).
3. The data collector (mix of both-ish: F, G, K, M, runs the experiment and helps with topic).
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Shoot, I didn't realize that you needed sample calcs. If so, then (2) yes. For #1, probably just as much as you think you need.OrigamiPlanet wrote:Two things since I'm still trying to understand the new rubric for statistics:dxu46 wrote:You don't need sophisticated statistics like that, the most they'd probably expect is standard deviation.Jacobi wrote:New Question:
On the Statistics section, if we are calculating something advanced like a correlation coefficient, do we have to show all of our steps?
1. Is there a certain number of statistics we should aim calculating?
2. Must every calculation for every statistic be shown?
Re: Experimental Design B/C
On your team layout, see the one I posted earlier.OrigamiPlanet wrote:Two things since I'm still trying to understand the new rubric for statistics:dxu46 wrote:You don't need sophisticated statistics like that, the most they'd probably expect is standard deviation.Jacobi wrote:New Question:
On the Statistics section, if we are calculating something advanced like a correlation coefficient, do we have to show all of our steps?
1. Is there a certain number of statistics we should aim calculating?
2. Must every calculation for every statistic be shown?
I'm trying to draft a team layout based upon like certain aspects of each part, so far (if you want to try it go ahead!)
1. The logician (A, B, C, D, H, I, also comes up with topic and deals with paperwork).
2. The analytic (E, J, L, runs and cleans up experiment).
3. The data collector (mix of both-ish: F, G, K, M, runs the experiment and helps with topic).
1. I think that the person who does the data crunch should run the experiment, since it is the experiment runners that collect all data. The person who does A-D should be focusing on the writing, not getting data.
2. In general, I would try to create a system that minimizes how much team members need to reference each other's work. Communication takes time.
3. That being said, having an experiment runner do part E is something that I hadn't thought of. It could work. However, the writer needs something to do, and procedure is another section that they can knock out.
Good starter, but you need to see which groupings work best for your team before you set that in stone.

