Mission Possible C

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Re: Mission Possible C

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windu34 wrote:
#2Pencil wrote: 2) How will masses of objects (like with the inclined plane/pulley) be checked before competition? I'm assuming that these objects have to be detachable then?
2.) I would definitely make them detachable. The supervisor may ask to measure them before, after, or not at all :shock: . I would plan for all three scenarios.
Either that or you can have the mass stamped onto the weight such as with store bought metal weights. Those would be easy to identify without having to detach anything.
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erico.vert wrote:
windu34 wrote:
#2Pencil wrote: 2) How will masses of objects (like with the inclined plane/pulley) be checked before competition? I'm assuming that these objects have to be detachable then?
2.) I would definitely make them detachable. The supervisor may ask to measure them before, after, or not at all :shock: . I would plan for all three scenarios.
Either that or you can have the mass stamped onto the weight such as with store bought metal weights. Those would be easy to identify without having to detach anything.
Even if they are stamped with their mass, expect many supervisors to request to measure them.
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#2Pencil wrote: 3) How is flipping the quarter to land tails up even possible? :lol:
I'm sure I'm not the only one who's attempting this :D
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ScottMaurer19 wrote:
#2Pencil wrote: 3) How is flipping the quarter to land tails up even possible? :lol:
I'm sure I'm not the only one who's attempting this :D
Nope!

Oops, completely forgot about the three word post limit (though I think it should be permitted when concurring with someone else...)
So, here's how I plan on tackling this: I'm using a lever for this, and I'm making the coin end of the lever adjustable in length, so I can mess around with it, and figure out how far it needs to be from the fulcrum.
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PM2017 wrote:
ScottMaurer19 wrote:
#2Pencil wrote: 3) How is flipping the quarter to land tails up even possible? :lol:
I'm sure I'm not the only one who's attempting this :D
Nope!

Oops, completely forgot about the three word post limit (though I think it should be permitted when concurring with someone else...)
So, here's how I plan on tackling this: I'm using a lever for this, and I'm making the coin end of the lever adjustable in length, so I can mess around with it, and figure out how far it needs to be from the fulcrum.
How could you get it to be consistent enough to work every time then?
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CookiePie1 wrote:
PM2017 wrote:
ScottMaurer19 wrote: I'm sure I'm not the only one who's attempting this :D
Nope!

Oops, completely forgot about the three word post limit (though I think it should be permitted when concurring with someone else...)
So, here's how I plan on tackling this: I'm using a lever for this, and I'm making the coin end of the lever adjustable in length, so I can mess around with it, and figure out how far it needs to be from the fulcrum.
How could you get it to be consistent enough to work every time then?
1. Cut all the play between moving parts as close to zero as possible.
2. Put the lever immediately after one of your most consistent actions. (you don't want it after something as consistent as the balloon task for example if that were even possible.)
3. Hope. Hope. Hope and pray to the 3d printer/bandsaw/building gods. (Scott will be able to tell you that even when something works consistently in practice, it might not work on competition day. Sorry if that's still a sore subject XD.)
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PM2017 wrote:(Scott will be able to tell you that even when something works consistently in practice, it might not work on competition day. Sorry if that's still a sore subject XD.)
It definitely is, for more than just Scott :)
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Would something like the having magnet task drop an object that completes an electrical connection that powers the end task be legal? I'm a little confused since technically electricity is not allowed to be used for magnet, but it is for end, so would the dropped object completing the connection technically be part of end or would it be part of magnet?
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ftf841 wrote:Would something like the having magnet task drop an object that completes an electrical connection that powers the end task be legal? I'm a little confused since technically electricity is not allowed to be used for magnet, but it is for end, so would the dropped object completing the connection technically be part of end or would it be part of magnet?
(Was just discussing this with ftf841)

Since it says electricity is limited to "raising the Final Action platform," does that mean electricity isn't allowed for the transition to the final action? How would that even be possible then?
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Ten086 wrote:
ftf841 wrote:Would something like the having magnet task drop an object that completes an electrical connection that powers the end task be legal? I'm a little confused since technically electricity is not allowed to be used for magnet, but it is for end, so would the dropped object completing the connection technically be part of end or would it be part of magnet?
(Was just discussing this with ftf841)

Since it says electricity is limited to "raising the Final Action platform," does that mean electricity isn't allowed for the transition to the final action? How would that even be possible then?
use another one of your tasks with electricity as the last task before the final action. this way you do not depend upon your ES's discretion

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