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Re: High IMA Pulley Task
Posted: December 4th, 2017, 7:36 pm
by ScottMaurer19
Snarknado wrote:aniSUKSatCHEM wrote:Can the ASL be typed? Or does it have to be handwritten?
I'd imagine typed would be preferable. But I think you'd be okay either way as long as the format (not released yet to my knowledge) is correct.
They released a sample at the coaches clinic. Basically include the order the transfers are in, a description for each, the action number from the rules, and the point values.
Re: High IMA Pulley Task
Posted: December 5th, 2017, 8:07 pm
by idontknowanything
If a movable pulley is used, does the weight of the movable pulley count towards the 500g object being lifted?
Re: High IMA Pulley Task
Posted: December 5th, 2017, 8:27 pm
by daydreamer0023
idontknowanything wrote:If a movable pulley is used, does the weight of the movable pulley count towards the 500g object being lifted?
I wouldn't say so, since the movable pulley isn't a lifted object.
Re: High IMA Pulley Task
Posted: December 6th, 2017, 4:14 am
by idontknowanything
daydreamer0023 wrote:idontknowanything wrote:If a movable pulley is used, does the weight of the movable pulley count towards the 500g object being lifted?
I wouldn't say so, since the movable pulley isn't a lifted object.
Even if the movable pulley is moving up and down vertically?
Re: High IMA Pulley Task
Posted: December 6th, 2017, 10:08 am
by ScottMaurer19
idontknowanything wrote:daydreamer0023 wrote:idontknowanything wrote:If a movable pulley is used, does the weight of the movable pulley count towards the 500g object being lifted?
I wouldn't say so, since the movable pulley isn't a lifted object.
Even if the movable pulley is moving up and down vertically?
I would err on the safe side and say that the pulley system and the lifted object are two seperate entities.
Re: High IMA Pulley Task
Posted: December 6th, 2017, 10:59 am
by idontknowanything
ScottMaurer19 wrote:idontknowanything wrote:daydreamer0023 wrote:
I wouldn't say so, since the movable pulley isn't a lifted object.
Even if the movable pulley is moving up and down vertically?
I would err on the safe side and say that the pulley system and the lifted object are two seperate entities.
What if the pulley is literally attached to the object? If the object included the pulley as part of it, shouldn't they be counted as one lifted object?
Re: High IMA Pulley Task
Posted: December 6th, 2017, 5:59 pm
by ScottMaurer19
idontknowanything wrote:ScottMaurer19 wrote:idontknowanything wrote:
Even if the movable pulley is moving up and down vertically?
I would err on the safe side and say that the pulley system and the lifted object are two seperate entities.
What if the pulley is literally attached to the object? If the object included the pulley as part of it, shouldn't they be counted as one lifted object?
My point still applies; err on the side of caution. If an ES has to think about it, don't do it.
Re: High IMA Pulley Task
Posted: December 6th, 2017, 7:40 pm
by retired1
I doubt it. Send in a FAQ to get a more authoritative answer.
Re: High IMA Pulley Task
Posted: December 9th, 2017, 6:56 am
by radioactivated
Does this task specifically require a block and tackle-style pulley? Would, for example, a differential pulley or windlass count as a "pulley"?
Re: High IMA Pulley Task
Posted: December 9th, 2017, 7:22 am
by Unome
radioactivated wrote:Does this task specifically require a block and tackle-style pulley? Would, for example, a differential pulley or windlass count as a "pulley"?
The relevant question here is whether the event supervisor considers it a pulley. Also, you would have to convince the event supervisor that the IMA is in fact greater than 7 (which would require some extra work for sure). I wouldn't risk it, especially since it's not that hard to buy cheap pulleys (
example), and quite a bit harder to make a working windlass or differential pulley.