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Re: Thermodynamics B/C Build
Posted: February 8th, 2019, 8:06 pm
by geniusjohn5
Dumb question but does the impounded box have to be 15 x 15 x 15 cm or does just the thermo device have to be within those dimensions and the impounded box can possess whatever dimensions?
Re: Thermodynamics B/C Build
Posted: February 8th, 2019, 8:19 pm
by CookiePie1
geniusjohn5 wrote:Dumb question but does the impounded box have to be 15 x 15 x 15 cm or does just the thermo device have to be within those dimensions and the impounded box can possess whatever dimensions?
The impounded box and the device are the same thing? If you're talking about your other materials, you're not limited to 15x15x15. Just the device.
Re: Thermodynamics B/C Build
Posted: February 8th, 2019, 8:39 pm
by geniusjohn5
CookiePie1 wrote:geniusjohn5 wrote:Dumb question but does the impounded box have to be 15 x 15 x 15 cm or does just the thermo device have to be within those dimensions and the impounded box can possess whatever dimensions?
The impounded box and the device are the same thing? If you're talking about your other materials, you're not limited to 15x15x15. Just the device.
Ok so it's not let I have to put my thermo device inside another box? I'm just acting super paranoid haha
Re: Thermodynamics B/C Build
Posted: February 8th, 2019, 8:45 pm
by UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F
geniusjohn5 wrote:CookiePie1 wrote:geniusjohn5 wrote:Dumb question but does the impounded box have to be 15 x 15 x 15 cm or does just the thermo device have to be within those dimensions and the impounded box can possess whatever dimensions?
The impounded box and the device are the same thing? If you're talking about your other materials, you're not limited to 15x15x15. Just the device.
Ok so it's not let I have to put my thermo device inside another box? I'm just acting super paranoid haha
You can put it in a box if you want; mine was in a box last year. Be sure you label both boxes with your team name and team number though.
Re: Thermodynamics B/C Build
Posted: February 9th, 2019, 1:48 pm
by stevieb711
Is a k-value of -.00749 any good? Honestly I have no idea
Re: Thermodynamics B/C Build
Posted: February 10th, 2019, 10:25 am
by smayya337
stevieb711 wrote:Is a k-value of -.00749 any good? Honestly I have no idea
It depends on the circumstances of your test. If you have a low volume and high temperature (e.g. 75mL and 75 degrees C), then I'd say that's pretty decent - we get -.009 to -.01. If it's on the other end of the spectrum (e.g. 125mL and 60 degrees C), that would be kind of high - we get -.004 to -.005. In the middle, that's a decent score - I'd expect about the same value from our box.
TL; DR: It depends on your volume and starting temperature, but at a medium volume and temperature, that's pretty good.
Re: Thermodynamics B/C Build
Posted: February 10th, 2019, 2:14 pm
by CPScienceDude
smayya337 wrote:stevieb711 wrote:Is a k-value of -.00749 any good? Honestly I have no idea
It depends on the circumstances of your test. If you have a low volume and high temperature (e.g. 75mL and 75 degrees C), then I'd say that's pretty decent - we get -.009 to -.01. If it's on the other end of the spectrum (e.g. 125mL and 60 degrees C), that would be kind of high - we get -.004 to -.005. In the middle, that's a decent score - I'd expect about the same value from our box.
TL; DR: It depends on your volume and starting temperature, but at a medium volume and temperature, that's pretty good.
Would a foam drink koozie count as a "commercially available thermos/cooler/vacuum sealed device"? (just look up foam drink koozie if you don't know what I'm talking about)
Re: Thermodynamics B/C Build
Posted: February 10th, 2019, 2:22 pm
by UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F
CPScienceDude wrote:smayya337 wrote:stevieb711 wrote:Is a k-value of -.00749 any good? Honestly I have no idea
It depends on the circumstances of your test. If you have a low volume and high temperature (e.g. 75mL and 75 degrees C), then I'd say that's pretty decent - we get -.009 to -.01. If it's on the other end of the spectrum (e.g. 125mL and 60 degrees C), that would be kind of high - we get -.004 to -.005. In the middle, that's a decent score - I'd expect about the same value from our box.
TL; DR: It depends on your volume and starting temperature, but at a medium volume and temperature, that's pretty good.
Would a foam drink koozie count as a "commercially available thermos/cooler/vacuum sealed device"? (just look up foam drink koozie if you don't know what I'm talking about)
I doubt it but don't rely on being able to use it
Re: Thermodynamics B/C Build
Posted: February 10th, 2019, 2:25 pm
by CPScienceDude
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:CPScienceDude wrote:smayya337 wrote:
It depends on the circumstances of your test. If you have a low volume and high temperature (e.g. 75mL and 75 degrees C), then I'd say that's pretty decent - we get -.009 to -.01. If it's on the other end of the spectrum (e.g. 125mL and 60 degrees C), that would be kind of high - we get -.004 to -.005. In the middle, that's a decent score - I'd expect about the same value from our box.
TL; DR: It depends on your volume and starting temperature, but at a medium volume and temperature, that's pretty good.
Would a foam drink koozie count as a "commercially available thermos/cooler/vacuum sealed device"? (just look up foam drink koozie if you don't know what I'm talking about)
I doubt it but don't rely on being able to use it
Ok, I included it in one of my early designs and it performed really well. But I didn't want to be told I wasn't allowed to use it at a competition and be screwed for my predictions.
Re: Thermodynamics B/C Build
Posted: February 10th, 2019, 2:37 pm
by JoeyC
Just prepare a replacement ( a way it could be removed e.g.). If it can't be removed, then exacto/duct tape it enough it doesn't look like a commercial product. Some proctors can be really picky.