Scrambler C

[jacobxc]

Hello,
Are you able to use a ramp for scrambler? for the 2014 specs? (contruction 2C)
In other words,

Most people sort of look the other way when it comes to ramps, if that make sense, lots of people would say no and an equal amount would say yes. They still haven't replied to anyone's rule clarification admissions.

Is everyone in agreement that for Regionals, there are only four possible distances? 8.7m, 9.7m, 10.7m, 11.7m.

I would say so.

[JTMess]

Hello,
Are you able to use a ramp for scrambler? for the 2014 specs? (contruction 2C)

I believe ramps are prohibited in 2C "the mass must be part of the energy propulsion system and need not travel with the egg transport." Using a ramp would make the egg transport the falling mass from which potential energy is converted to kinetic, meaning that the mass would be traveling with the egg transport, violating 2C.

[joeyjoejoe]

I believe ramps are prohibited in 2C "the mass must be part of the energy propulsion system and need not travel with the egg transport." Using a ramp would make the egg transport the falling mass from which potential energy is converted to kinetic, meaning that the mass would be traveling with the egg transport, violating 2C.

That would be a correct interpretation if the rule stated: "...energy propulsion system and should/can not travel with the egg transport" As it is stated, it simply indicates that the mass isn't required to travel with the egg transport.
In fact many designs utilize a car with a tower and weight on top of it which travels with the car.

[Balsa Man]

But it would seem that any design carrying a lot of mass down the track would be at a real disadvantage when it came time to hit the brakes; a whole lot more energy to dissipate/control than with a light vehicle....

[joeyjoejoe]

A disadvantage, yes but not a violation.

Also, sorry to post what may be a newbie question so late in the game but rule 1 (the description) mentions that the mechanical device must stop "as close to the center of a Terminal Barrier...".
Does this mean the terminal barrier, if it exists (see a couple of posts up..), will have some sort of vertical line on it indicating its center? If so, how would a run that stops 1cm from the barrier but 10cm from the "center" (i.e. L/R) score differently from one that stops 10cm from the barrier but 1 cm from the center? Or would it?

[ChocolateLove]

From what I have seen when watching scrambler, it seems as though there is a vertical line (which is indicated with sharpie and a piece of tape) from which the supervisors measure. That is the central point. So it would make sense that you can get a 1 cm distance from the Terminal Barrier but your distance from the Central Point on the Terminal Barrier could be 10 cm.

"2.b. ... coming to a complete stop as close as possible to the center of the Terminal Barrier."

[A Person]

A disadvantage, yes but not a violation.

Also, sorry to post what may be a newbie question so late in the game but rule 1 (the description) mentions that the mechanical device must stop "as close to the center of a Terminal Barrier...".
Does this mean the terminal barrier, if it exists (see a couple of posts up..), will have some sort of vertical line on it indicating its center? If so, how would a run that stops 1cm from the barrier but 10cm from the "center" (i.e. L/R) score differently from one that stops 10cm from the barrier but 1 cm from the center? Or would it?

I think this was mentioned somewhere, but this event is a point-to-point. From the point of the egg to the "center" of the barrier. For your scenario, it is the same. If I understand correctly, both scores would be from scored that the scrambler was 10-11 cm off.

[joeyjoejoe]

That what the rules seem to say but I can't see that being the case when I look at the myriad of Youtube videos of various competitions. It looks like most of the measurements are the perpendicular distance from the end of the egg to the barrier.

[iwonder]

Yeah, it might've changed from previous years? Or maybe they just did it wrong at those contests When I've competed they've always measured to the center point.

[olympiaddict]

Is it possible those were B division videos? When I competed in mousetrap car in B division I believe it was point to line. Maybe it was the same for scrambler?