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Has anyone actually bought the training CD's? If so, are they helpful? Do they contain information that isn't in the training handouts or in a physio textbook? Thanks.

What are some of the hardest questions that you guys have been asked? For example, I know last year at states I was asked to provide the 11 diagnostic criteria for systemic lupus erythematosus; at the time, that seemed pretty difficult (of course now I will never be able to forget the 11 criteria because they haunt my very existence). But for this year, what are some of the hardest ones that you can remember? I think that for this year one of my harder questions was "What cytokine is synthesized by muscle cells and inhibits myogenesis?" I put TNF-alpha (aka cachexin) but I'm still not really sure. Gotta be prepared for those tie-breakers at states

Physiofreak wrote:What are some of the hardest questions that you guys have been asked? For example, I know last year at states I was asked to provide the 11 diagnostic criteria for systemic lupus erythematosus; at the time, that seemed pretty difficult (of course now I will never be able to forget the 11 criteria because they haunt my very existence). But for this year, what are some of the hardest ones that you can remember? I think that for this year one of my harder questions was "What cytokine is synthesized by muscle cells and inhibits myogenesis?" I put TNF-alpha (aka cachexin) but I'm still not really sure. Gotta be prepared for those tie-breakers at states

The answer was myostatin (Those pictures of cows with weird bulging muscles?). Funny, I still haven't gotten a single hard question (which is bad ). A harder one (which I missed, but I was only 3 weeks in) was "A man complains of a loss of the sense of smell. What part of what bone was likely injured?"

Uber wrote:

Physiofreak wrote:What are some of the hardest questions that you guys have been asked? For example, I know last year at states I was asked to provide the 11 diagnostic criteria for systemic lupus erythematosus; at the time, that seemed pretty difficult (of course now I will never be able to forget the 11 criteria because they haunt my very existence). But for this year, what are some of the hardest ones that you can remember? I think that for this year one of my harder questions was "What cytokine is synthesized by muscle cells and inhibits myogenesis?" I put TNF-alpha (aka cachexin) but I'm still not really sure. Gotta be prepared for those tie-breakers at states

The answer was myostatin (Those pictures of cows with weird bulging muscles?). Funny, I still haven't gotten a single hard question (which is bad ). A harder one (which I missed, but I was only 3 weeks in) was "A man complains of a loss of the sense of smell. What part of what bone was likely injured?"

Thanks so much! I had tried googling the answer but we all know that there is a point where you become too intelligent for Google and it just won't give you the word you are looking for. But for your question I would say the cribriform plate of the ethmoid bone because I think the olfactory nerve passes through there. Another harder question I had (I got this one though) displayed a picture of a slightly green/black fingernail and asked me to identify what disease/disorder the person had.

Physiofreak wrote:

Uber wrote:

Physiofreak wrote:What are some of the hardest questions that you guys have been asked? For example, I know last year at states I was asked to provide the 11 diagnostic criteria for systemic lupus erythematosus; at the time, that seemed pretty difficult (of course now I will never be able to forget the 11 criteria because they haunt my very existence). But for this year, what are some of the hardest ones that you can remember? I think that for this year one of my harder questions was "What cytokine is synthesized by muscle cells and inhibits myogenesis?" I put TNF-alpha (aka cachexin) but I'm still not really sure. Gotta be prepared for those tie-breakers at states

The answer was myostatin (Those pictures of cows with weird bulging muscles?). Funny, I still haven't gotten a single hard question (which is bad ). A harder one (which I missed, but I was only 3 weeks in) was "A man complains of a loss of the sense of smell. What part of what bone was likely injured?"

Thanks so much! I had tried googling the answer but we all know that there is a point where you become too intelligent for Google and it just won't give you the word you are looking for. But for your question I would say the cribriform plate of the ethmoid bone because I think the olfactory nerve passes through there. Another harder question I had (I got this one though) displayed a picture of a slightly green/black fingernail and asked me to identify what disease/disorder the person had.

Onychosis?

Although, this myostatin stuff is so obscure...how do you guys learn it? I've literally memorized my textbook and its not in there.... Also, are they allowed to ask about diseases not in the rule packet? Onychosis isn't there, and the bones of the skull are Nationals only? If so, how would ethmoid be allowed?

bhavjain wrote:

Physiofreak wrote:

Uber wrote: The answer was myostatin (Those pictures of cows with weird bulging muscles?). Funny, I still haven't gotten a single hard question (which is bad ). A harder one (which I missed, but I was only 3 weeks in) was "A man complains of a loss of the sense of smell. What part of what bone was likely injured?"

Thanks so much! I had tried googling the answer but we all know that there is a point where you become too intelligent for Google and it just won't give you the word you are looking for. But for your question I would say the cribriform plate of the ethmoid bone because I think the olfactory nerve passes through there. Another harder question I had (I got this one though) displayed a picture of a slightly green/black fingernail and asked me to identify what disease/disorder the person had.

Onychosis?

Although, this myostatin stuff is so obscure...how do you guys learn it? I've literally memorized my textbook and its not in there.... Also, are they allowed to ask about diseases not in the rule packet? Onychosis isn't there, and the bones of the skull are Nationals only? If so, how would ethmoid be allowed?

My answer to the nail question was onychosis caused by pseudomonas aeruginosa infection. And they are supposed to only ask us about diseases in the packet, yes, but the test makers never actually follow the rules, so it is best to know everything. I mean my regionals test asked about Salter Harris fractures, which are supposed to be a nationals topic, so you can't really guarantee that anything is outside the scope of being tested. And I agree that the myostatin question was obscure; that's why I considered it a hard question

Do you all have any tips on memorizing the origin and insertion for the muscles? I can't ever seem to remember any of them.

BrS wrote:Do you all have any tips on memorizing the origin and insertion for the muscles? I can't ever seem to remember any of them.

Yeah.. put it on your cheat sheet lol

alexamezaga1 wrote:

BrS wrote:Do you all have any tips on memorizing the origin and insertion for the muscles? I can't ever seem to remember any of them.

Yeah.. put it on your cheat sheet lol

Sameeee yea if you ever meet someone who knows all the 50 muscles with origins and insertions without making a mistake tell me. For real though what I do is put them in super tiny font in the corner and have it laid out like:

1) Muscle Name - Orgin / Insertion / Action
2) AND SO ON

lol thanks guys! really wanted to make sure that i'm using my space on my cheat sheet in the most conservative way possible