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Should I expect any testing other than ID such as insect parts? Because I don't know if my notes were focused on that enough? :shock:
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Cjkowalcz wrote:Should I expect any testing other than ID such as insect parts? Because I don't know if my notes were focused on that enough? :shock:
Heheheh...I was just going to point out the first three words of section 3.d., but you have to take note of the bold addition in 3.a. which they didn't account for in 3.d. In other words, topics are limited to what's below, and topics may include stuff. So, topics are limited to what the topics may include! :D I suspect the 'may' is supposed to go away (I've submitted a rules clarification). So, what can we say? 3.a limits ID to the specimen itself. There is no suggestion anywhere that says supervisors will or even can stick a pin in a part and label it. Except 3.d...that's structure of external anatomy. Thus (and this is one guy's opinion), it seems not only fair but expected that they will stick a specimen, if they have them, and ask for ID of parts. It wasn't unusual for Amp Rep or Ornith, either.
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"Entomology - B & C Division (11/19/13): Students may write in their field guide only. Information on post-its or pages glued into the guide will not be acceptable." I saw this clarification on the NY page. Does this mean no tabbing?
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isalva wrote:"Entomology - B & C Division (11/19/13): Students may write in their field guide only. Information on post-its or pages glued into the guide will not be acceptable." I saw this clarification on the NY page. Does this mean no tabbing?
No. Tabbing is still allowed with a maximum of three words per tab. This clarification is stating that a student may not write information (more than three words) on a Post-it and stick it in a page in the book. This is different from tabbing.
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ok thank you for clarifying that.
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1. Does anyone know the difference between Cercopidae (froghoppers) and Cicadellidae (treehoppers)? I assumed that we had to know Cercopidae because of its larvae, but it seems that on the list this isn't the case.
2. Tenebrionidae. The darkling beetles get me every time. Anyone have a good way to id?
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How do you study for this event? Me and my partner are very confused
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dragons790 wrote:1. Does anyone know the difference between Cercopidae (froghoppers) and Cicadellidae (treehoppers)? I assumed that we had to know Cercopidae because of its larvae, but it seems that on the list this isn't the case.
2. Tenebrionidae. The darkling beetles get me every time. Anyone have a good way to id?
I really don't know either of those. :lol: Let's hope they don't come up.
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Getting a guide and learning how to navigate wouldn't be a bad start. But really, learning distinguishing characteristics and looking at pictures of each order/family is the best thing to do.
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dragons790 wrote:1. Does anyone know the difference between Cercopidae (froghoppers) and Cicadellidae (treehoppers)? I assumed that we had to know Cercopidae because of its larvae, but it seems that on the list this isn't the case.
The treehoppers are the weird-looking ones with the elongated pronotum.
The difference between froghoppers and leafhoppers is much more difficult; personally, I think that these two look about the same. However, if you look closely, you'll see that leafhoppers have a row of tiny spines on their hind legs.

Does anyone know the difference between winged aphids and barklice, excluding the cornicles (that are often hard to spot)?
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sparklypie wrote:
dragons790 wrote:1. Does anyone know the difference between Cercopidae (froghoppers) and Cicadellidae (treehoppers)? I assumed that we had to know Cercopidae because of its larvae, but it seems that on the list this isn't the case.
The treehoppers are the weird-looking ones with the elongated pronotum.
The difference between froghoppers and leafhoppers is much more difficult; personally, I think that these two look about the same. However, if you look closely, you'll see that leafhoppers have a row of tiny spines on their hind legs.

Does anyone know the difference between winged aphids and barklice, excluding the cornicles (that are often hard to spot)?
The treehoppers are Membracidae; dragons790 meant the leafhoppers. :)

More often than not, the winged aphids have more transparent wings, while the bark lice have darker venation that may form dark spots on the wing.
But definitely look for the cornicles. :P Also, Aphididae are often green or whitish, while bark lice are almost always darker.
Most of my identification strategies don't always work, but they do most of the time, and I'm fine with gambling. ;)
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