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whythelongface wrote:I wasn't kidding about the petition. That's ridiculous.

https://www.change.org/p/njso-indoor-bo ... iad-states

These trial events basically are normal events, the name is misleading. So now we have 25 events, and most teams will have to really rush to practice, study, or build for the two trials.

It's interesting that this is how NY operated for a long time. Implementation can have quite the effect on how something is received.

I think overall most New Yorkers are glad that is no longer the case.

builderguy135 wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/njso-indoor-bo ... iad-states

lol, you really think that njso is going to listen to a bunch of teenagers complaining about a trial event? haha nope. I personally hate it as well, but lets be honest, you can't do anything about it.

masterWIZ wrote:

builderguy135 wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/njso-indoor-bo ... iad-states

lol, you really think that njso is going to listen to a bunch of teenagers complaining about a trial event? haha nope. I personally hate it as well, but lets be honest, you can't do anything about it.

While that may be the case, we might as well try. Otherwise there's a guarantee that nothing gets done. At least now there's a small chance, and we have to be willing to take it.

masterWIZ wrote:

builderguy135 wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/njso-indoor-bo ... iad-states

lol, you really think that njso is going to listen to a bunch of teenagers complaining about a trial event? haha nope. I personally hate it as well, but lets be honest, you can't do anything about it.

It makes no sense to complain about a build event specifically. Everyone has the same time to prepare (but perhaps different amounts of resources). Just toss all trial events as lumo argued. Its unfair to say builds are specifically harder to prepare for over study events... its just not true since everyone has the same amount of time. The issue of varying resources can only be solved by omitting all trials

The real question is why can't we atleast try to get more volunteers so that the competition can be of higher quality... more than that, different time slot groupings have different conflicts... teams 19-27 have conflicts between fossils and herpetology for example (which basically screws them over), but the other groups don't. These inconsistencies all add up to a really volatile and poor competition

rabbitman wrote:

masterWIZ wrote:

builderguy135 wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/njso-indoor-bo ... iad-states

lol, you really think that njso is going to listen to a bunch of teenagers complaining about a trial event? haha nope. I personally hate it as well, but lets be honest, you can't do anything about it.

It makes no sense to complain about a build event specifically. Everyone has the same time to prepare (but perhaps different amounts of resources). Just toss all trial events as lumo argued. Its unfair to say builds are specifically harder to prepare for over study events... its just not true since everyone has the same amount of time. The issue of varying resources can only be solved by omitting all trials

The real question is why can't we atleast try to get more volunteers so that the competition can be of higher quality... more than that, different time slot groupings have different conflicts... teams 19-27 have conflicts between fossils and herpetology for example (which basically screws them over), but the other groups don't. These inconsistencies all add up to a really volatile and poor competition

Honestly, I feel like the things that screw us over are the terrible tests and only 5 time blocks. The tests are often reused and just generally short and low quality tests, which are pretty frustrating. The 5 time blocks though just make for so many conflicts that could easily be avoided if another hour was added into the schedule.

Also, build events are much harder in a short time span than study. You're right that everyone has the same time to prepare - but it takes much longer than 3 weeks to even get close to perfecting a build. I'm not saying that builds are specifically harder than study events over the entire year, but in my opinion, it definitely is harder in 3 weeks.

builderguy135 wrote:

rabbitman wrote:

masterWIZ wrote:
lol, you really think that njso is going to listen to a bunch of teenagers complaining about a trial event? haha nope. I personally hate it as well, but lets be honest, you can't do anything about it.

It makes no sense to complain about a build event specifically. Everyone has the same time to prepare (but perhaps different amounts of resources). Just toss all trial events as lumo argued. Its unfair to say builds are specifically harder to prepare for over study events... its just not true since everyone has the same amount of time. The issue of varying resources can only be solved by omitting all trials

The real question is why can't we atleast try to get more volunteers so that the competition can be of higher quality... more than that, different time slot groupings have different conflicts... teams 19-27 have conflicts between fossils and herpetology for example (which basically screws them over), but the other groups don't. These inconsistencies all add up to a really volatile and poor competition

Honestly, I feel like the things that screw us over are the terrible tests and only 5 time blocks. The tests are often reused and just generally short and low quality tests, which are pretty frustrating. The 5 time blocks though just make for so many conflicts that could easily be avoided if another hour was added into the schedule.

Also, build events are much harder in a short time span than study. You're right that everyone has the same time to prepare - but it takes much longer than 3 weeks to even get close to perfecting a build. I'm not saying that builds are specifically harder than study events over the entire year, but in my opinion, it definitely is harder in 3 weeks.

boi no one said you have to perfect it... everyone has the same time so it doesnt matter

rabbitman wrote:

builderguy135 wrote:

rabbitman wrote:
It makes no sense to complain about a build event specifically. Everyone has the same time to prepare (but perhaps different amounts of resources). Just toss all trial events as lumo argued. Its unfair to say builds are specifically harder to prepare for over study events... its just not true since everyone has the same amount of time. The issue of varying resources can only be solved by omitting all trials

The real question is why can't we atleast try to get more volunteers so that the competition can be of higher quality... more than that, different time slot groupings have different conflicts... teams 19-27 have conflicts between fossils and herpetology for example (which basically screws them over), but the other groups don't. These inconsistencies all add up to a really volatile and poor competition

Honestly, I feel like the things that screw us over are the terrible tests and only 5 time blocks. The tests are often reused and just generally short and low quality tests, which are pretty frustrating. The 5 time blocks though just make for so many conflicts that could easily be avoided if another hour was added into the schedule.

Also, build events are much harder in a short time span than study. You're right that everyone has the same time to prepare - but it takes much longer than 3 weeks to even get close to perfecting a build. I'm not saying that builds are specifically harder than study events over the entire year, but in my opinion, it definitely is harder in 3 weeks.

boi no one said you have to perfect it... everyone has the same time so it doesnt matter

If anything, the new trial events would just show which teams work harder and which teams don't care. If you can work really hard in 3 weeks, you could definitely make a good bottle rocket. It's not that teams have unfair advantages. Nobody knew about bottle rocket until it was posted yesterday. It's just that some teams have harder workers and it shows.