https://www.change.org/p/njso-indoor-bo ... iad-stateswhythelongface wrote:I wasn't kidding about the petition. That's ridiculous.
New Jersey 2019
- builderguy135
- Exalted Member
- Posts: 736
- Joined: September 8th, 2018, 12:24 pm
- Division: C
- State: NJ
- Pronouns: He/Him/His
- Has thanked: 191 times
- Been thanked: 143 times
- Contact:
Re: New Jersey 2019
-
- Member
- Posts: 32
- Joined: January 7th, 2019, 2:25 pm
- Division: B
- State: NJ
- Has thanked: 0
- Been thanked: 0
Re: New Jersey 2019
These trial events basically are normal events, the name is misleading. So now we have 25 events, and most teams will have to really rush to practice, study, or build for the two trials.
Community 2018-2019
2018-2019 Events:
LISO/Rustin/Regs/Garnet/Cornell/States/Nats!
Thermo: 1/1/x/x/2/5/12
Circuit: 2/3/x/4/10/1/11
Experimental Design: 2/1/1/10/5/1/13
2018-2019 Medal Count: 15
National "What Are You Trying To Tell Me" Champion! (lol)
2018-2019 Events:
LISO/Rustin/Regs/Garnet/Cornell/States/Nats!
Thermo: 1/1/x/x/2/5/12
Circuit: 2/3/x/4/10/1/11
Experimental Design: 2/1/1/10/5/1/13
2018-2019 Medal Count: 15
National "What Are You Trying To Tell Me" Champion! (lol)
- Unome
- Moderator
- Posts: 4321
- Joined: January 26th, 2014, 12:48 pm
- Division: Grad
- State: GA
- Has thanked: 228 times
- Been thanked: 82 times
Re: New Jersey 2019
It's interesting that this is how NY operated for a long time. Implementation can have quite the effect on how something is received.
- EastStroudsburg13
- Admin Emeritus
- Posts: 3201
- Joined: January 17th, 2009, 7:32 am
- Division: Grad
- State: MD
- Pronouns: He/Him/His
- Has thanked: 47 times
- Been thanked: 204 times
- Contact:
Re: New Jersey 2019
I think overall most New Yorkers are glad that is no longer the case. 

East Stroudsburg South Class of 2012, Alumnus of JT Lambert, Drexel University Class of 2017
Helpful Links
Wiki
Wiki Pages that Need Work
FAQ and SciOly FAQ Wiki
Chat (See IRC Wiki for more info)
BBCode Wiki
So long, and thanks for all the Future Dictator titles!
Helpful Links
Wiki
Wiki Pages that Need Work
FAQ and SciOly FAQ Wiki
Chat (See IRC Wiki for more info)
BBCode Wiki
So long, and thanks for all the Future Dictator titles!
- masterWIZ
- Member
- Posts: 19
- Joined: January 10th, 2019, 4:25 pm
- Division: Grad
- State: OH
- Has thanked: 0
- Been thanked: 0
Re: New Jersey 2019
lol, you really think that njso is going to listen to a bunch of teenagers complaining about a trial event? haha nope. I personally hate it as well, but lets be honest, you can't do anything about it.builderguy135 wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/njso-indoor-bo ... iad-states
Mr. Builder



- lumosityfan
- Exalted Member
- Posts: 418
- Joined: July 14th, 2012, 7:00 pm
- Division: Grad
- State: TX
- Pronouns: He/Him/His
- Has thanked: 192 times
- Been thanked: 84 times
Re: New Jersey 2019
While that may be the case, we might as well try. Otherwise there's a guarantee that nothing gets done. At least now there's a small chance, and we have to be willing to take it.masterWIZ wrote:lol, you really think that njso is going to listen to a bunch of teenagers complaining about a trial event? haha nope. I personally hate it as well, but lets be honest, you can't do anything about it.builderguy135 wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/njso-indoor-bo ... iad-states
John P. Stevens Class of 2015 (Go Hawks!)
Columbia University Class of 2019 (Go Lions!)
Columbia University Class of 2019 (Go Lions!)
-
- Member
- Posts: 33
- Joined: September 12th, 2018, 4:45 pm
- Has thanked: 0
- Been thanked: 1 time
Re: New Jersey 2019
It makes no sense to complain about a build event specifically. Everyone has the same time to prepare (but perhaps different amounts of resources). Just toss all trial events as lumo argued. Its unfair to say builds are specifically harder to prepare for over study events... its just not true since everyone has the same amount of time. The issue of varying resources can only be solved by omitting all trialsmasterWIZ wrote:lol, you really think that njso is going to listen to a bunch of teenagers complaining about a trial event? haha nope. I personally hate it as well, but lets be honest, you can't do anything about it.builderguy135 wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/njso-indoor-bo ... iad-states
The real question is why can't we atleast try to get more volunteers so that the competition can be of higher quality... more than that, different time slot groupings have different conflicts... teams 19-27 have conflicts between fossils and herpetology for example (which basically screws them over), but the other groups don't. These inconsistencies all add up to a really volatile and poor competition
- builderguy135
- Exalted Member
- Posts: 736
- Joined: September 8th, 2018, 12:24 pm
- Division: C
- State: NJ
- Pronouns: He/Him/His
- Has thanked: 191 times
- Been thanked: 143 times
- Contact:
Re: New Jersey 2019
Honestly, I feel like the things that screw us over are the terrible tests and only 5 time blocks. The tests are often reused and just generally short and low quality tests, which are pretty frustrating. The 5 time blocks though just make for so many conflicts that could easily be avoided if another hour was added into the schedule.rabbitman wrote:It makes no sense to complain about a build event specifically. Everyone has the same time to prepare (but perhaps different amounts of resources). Just toss all trial events as lumo argued. Its unfair to say builds are specifically harder to prepare for over study events... its just not true since everyone has the same amount of time. The issue of varying resources can only be solved by omitting all trialsmasterWIZ wrote:lol, you really think that njso is going to listen to a bunch of teenagers complaining about a trial event? haha nope. I personally hate it as well, but lets be honest, you can't do anything about it.builderguy135 wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/njso-indoor-bo ... iad-states
The real question is why can't we atleast try to get more volunteers so that the competition can be of higher quality... more than that, different time slot groupings have different conflicts... teams 19-27 have conflicts between fossils and herpetology for example (which basically screws them over), but the other groups don't. These inconsistencies all add up to a really volatile and poor competition
Also, build events are much harder in a short time span than study. You're right that everyone has the same time to prepare - but it takes much longer than 3 weeks to even get close to perfecting a build. I'm not saying that builds are specifically harder than study events over the entire year, but in my opinion, it definitely is harder in 3 weeks.
-
- Member
- Posts: 33
- Joined: September 12th, 2018, 4:45 pm
- Has thanked: 0
- Been thanked: 1 time
Re: New Jersey 2019
boi no one said you have to perfect it... everyone has the same time so it doesnt matterbuilderguy135 wrote:Honestly, I feel like the things that screw us over are the terrible tests and only 5 time blocks. The tests are often reused and just generally short and low quality tests, which are pretty frustrating. The 5 time blocks though just make for so many conflicts that could easily be avoided if another hour was added into the schedule.rabbitman wrote:It makes no sense to complain about a build event specifically. Everyone has the same time to prepare (but perhaps different amounts of resources). Just toss all trial events as lumo argued. Its unfair to say builds are specifically harder to prepare for over study events... its just not true since everyone has the same amount of time. The issue of varying resources can only be solved by omitting all trialsmasterWIZ wrote:
lol, you really think that njso is going to listen to a bunch of teenagers complaining about a trial event? haha nope. I personally hate it as well, but lets be honest, you can't do anything about it.
The real question is why can't we atleast try to get more volunteers so that the competition can be of higher quality... more than that, different time slot groupings have different conflicts... teams 19-27 have conflicts between fossils and herpetology for example (which basically screws them over), but the other groups don't. These inconsistencies all add up to a really volatile and poor competition
Also, build events are much harder in a short time span than study. You're right that everyone has the same time to prepare - but it takes much longer than 3 weeks to even get close to perfecting a build. I'm not saying that builds are specifically harder than study events over the entire year, but in my opinion, it definitely is harder in 3 weeks.
- CookiePie1
- Exalted Member
- Posts: 428
- Joined: February 15th, 2018, 5:05 pm
- Division: C
- State: NJ
- Pronouns: He/Him/His
- Has thanked: 121 times
- Been thanked: 93 times
Re: New Jersey 2019
If anything, the new trial events would just show which teams work harder and which teams don't care. If you can work really hard in 3 weeks, you could definitely make a good bottle rocket. It's not that teams have unfair advantages. Nobody knew about bottle rocket until it was posted yesterday. It's just that some teams have harder workers and it shows.rabbitman wrote:boi no one said you have to perfect it... everyone has the same time so it doesnt matterbuilderguy135 wrote:Honestly, I feel like the things that screw us over are the terrible tests and only 5 time blocks. The tests are often reused and just generally short and low quality tests, which are pretty frustrating. The 5 time blocks though just make for so many conflicts that could easily be avoided if another hour was added into the schedule.rabbitman wrote:
It makes no sense to complain about a build event specifically. Everyone has the same time to prepare (but perhaps different amounts of resources). Just toss all trial events as lumo argued. Its unfair to say builds are specifically harder to prepare for over study events... its just not true since everyone has the same amount of time. The issue of varying resources can only be solved by omitting all trials
The real question is why can't we atleast try to get more volunteers so that the competition can be of higher quality... more than that, different time slot groupings have different conflicts... teams 19-27 have conflicts between fossils and herpetology for example (which basically screws them over), but the other groups don't. These inconsistencies all add up to a really volatile and poor competition
Also, build events are much harder in a short time span than study. You're right that everyone has the same time to prepare - but it takes much longer than 3 weeks to even get close to perfecting a build. I'm not saying that builds are specifically harder than study events over the entire year, but in my opinion, it definitely is harder in 3 weeks.
South Brunswick High School Captain '22
2020 Events: Protein Modeling, Ping Pong Parachute, Wright Stuff, Sounds of Music
2021 Events: Protein Modeling, Sounds of Music, Ornithology
2022 Events: TBD
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
-Albert Einstein
2020 Events: Protein Modeling, Ping Pong Parachute, Wright Stuff, Sounds of Music
2021 Events: Protein Modeling, Sounds of Music, Ornithology
2022 Events: TBD
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
-Albert Einstein
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests