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Re: Robo-Cross B

Posted: March 27th, 2015, 12:53 pm
by UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F
schist99centz wrote:What is the maximum score you can get if you use all of the 3 minutes (300 seconds)?
3 min 300 sec, but...

Re: Robo-Cross B

Posted: March 27th, 2015, 5:06 pm
by jander14indoor
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
schist99centz wrote:What is the maximum score you can get if you use all of the 3 minutes (300 seconds)?
3 min 300 sec, but...
I think you need to check your math. While you are right that 3 minutes is not 300 seconds, but 180 (making the max possible time score 180 points) that is not the max object score.

A quote from the National SO website FAQ:

2015-02-20 16:39 What is the maximum object score possible?

456, no time points, no robot points, no penalties. All objects (pennies, legos, ping pong balls, tennis ball) in their maximum scoring position.

How do you get there you ask, well, lets try this
16 pennies, in zone D at 2 points each times 3 for being in upright jug times 2 for split between the two jugs
16*2*3*2=192
4 Legos, in zone D at 4 points each times 3 for being in upright jug times 2 for split between the two jugs
4*4*3*2=96
4 Ping Pong Balls, in zone D at 6 points each times 3 for being in upright jug times 2 for split between the two jugs
4*6*3*2=144
1 tennis ball, in zone D at 8 points times 3 for being in upright jug (can't split it)
1*8*3=24
192+96+144+24=456

And then you get the 15 points for the robot in zone D

And you can use the excel file on the NSO website to verify this without too much trouble.

Regards,
Jeff Anderson
Livonia, MI

Re: Robo-Cross B

Posted: March 27th, 2015, 5:07 pm
by UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F
jander14indoor wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
schist99centz wrote:What is the maximum score you can get if you use all of the 3 minutes (300 seconds)?
3 min 300 sec, but...
I think you need to check your math. A quote from the National SO website FAQ:

2015-02-20 16:39 What is the maximum object score possible?

456, no time points, no robot points, no penalties. All objects (pennies, legos, ping pong balls, tennis ball) in their maximum scoring position.

How do you get there you ask, well, lets try this
16 pennies, in zone D at 2 points each times 3 for being in upright jug times 2 for split between the two jugs
16*2*3*2=192
4 Legos, in zone D at 4 points each times 3 for being in upright jug times 2 for split between the two jugs
4*4*3*2=96
4 Ping Pong Balls, in zone D at 6 points each times 3 for being in upright jug times 2 for split between the two jugs
4*6*3*2=144
1 tennis ball, in zone D at 8 points times 3 for being in upright jug (can't split it)
1*8*3=24
192+96+144+24=456

And then you get the 15 points for the robot in zone D

And you can use the excel file on the NSO website to verify this without too much trouble.

Regards,
Jeff Anderson
Livonia, MI
Oh, right, I didn't see the x2!
I'll fix it!

EDIT: Done!

Re: Robo-Cross B

Posted: March 31st, 2015, 8:13 am
by seasalt_
What is the significance of having 2 jugs? If you use both bonus jugs do you recieve more points

Re: Robo-Cross B

Posted: March 31st, 2015, 1:13 pm
by Unome
seasalt_ wrote:What is the significance of having 2 jugs? If you use both bonus jugs do you recieve more points
I think there is a 2x bonus if you have at least one object in each jug.

Re: Robo-Cross B

Posted: March 31st, 2015, 2:51 pm
by jander14indoor
I KNOW there is a bonus, and I don't even have give my usual warning about my comments not being official! See rule 6.b.v.
If your coach hasn't provided you the rules, insist on it! How can you compete effectively if you haven't read the rules to understand the task!!

Regards,

Jeff Anderson
Livonia, MI

Re: Robo-Cross B

Posted: April 2nd, 2015, 6:30 am
by seasalt_
jander14indoor wrote:I KNOW there is a bonus, and I don't even have give my usual warning about my comments not being official! See rule 6.b.v.
If your coach hasn't provided you the rules, insist on it! How can you compete effectively if you haven't read the rules to understand the task!!

Regards,

Jeff Anderson
Livonia, MI

Thank you so much! We read the rules many times but we weren't sure and our coaches interpreted it in a different way,

Re: Robo-Cross B

Posted: April 2nd, 2015, 7:08 am
by jander14indoor
seasalt_ wrote:<SNIP, no reason to re-quote myself!>
Thank you so much! We read the rules many times but we weren't sure and our coaches interpreted it in a different way,
I'll admit, that rule was hard to write clearly and I'm to close to always see what's wrong. Since I'm always trying to improve how we write rules, how were your coaches interpreting it? Any explanation of how they got to that interpretation would also be helpful.

Thanks,

Jeff Anderson
Livonia, MI

Re: Robo-Cross B

Posted: April 2nd, 2015, 8:49 am
by seasalt_
My coaches thought that just if you used one of the bonus jugs you would get a 2x bonus, so the second bonus jug was pretty much just used as a convenience. We knew we had to be doing something we were doing wrong.

Re: Robo-Cross B

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 6:59 pm
by dragonfruit35
Right now avg. score is around 150-200 :oops: , but steadily improving! :) How bad would that do in a competition?

Has anyone competed at States? If so, what were the scores you saw?