Protein Modeling C
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Re: Protein Modeling C
Also, the research paper was talking about the significance of asp14. I am kind of confused by what they meant. Do they mean that occupying the phosphate lock loop prevents guide RNA from being formed (target heteroduplex)? I am confused.
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Re: Protein Modeling C
thoughts on adding the sgRNA to the model? for regionals, my partner and i built just the AcrIIA4 with significant side chains... and i think adding more would have earned us more points. we want to add on for states. would adding the sgRNA be too much??
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Re: Protein Modeling C
I don't think it's too much; rather it's important to the Cas9 protein, but AcrIIA4 doesn't directly affect the sgRNA. Therefore, you might be better off adding some of the parts that AcrIIA4 directly interacts with.shivanirao21 wrote:thoughts on adding the sgRNA to the model? for regionals, my partner and i built just the AcrIIA4 with significant side chains... and i think adding more would have earned us more points. we want to add on for states. would adding the sgRNA be too much??
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Rules clarification as of today: the points distribution is 20% pre-build, 40% onsite build, and 40% test. This might be one of the latest rules clarification ever issued, and it's a rather major one too.
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Re: Protein Modeling C
I'm really curious about the reasoning behind it. For the rules clarification to happen this late, and for it to be one that has such a big impact, there has to be some major reason they felt like they had to do it.Unome wrote:Rules clarification as of today: the points distribution is 20% pre-build, 40% onsite build, and 40% test. This might be one of the latest rules clarification ever issued, and it's a rather major one too.
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Maybe it goes to some of the 'pay-to-win' type things. I think some schools are sinking a ton of money into it and they probably just don't want that.EastStroudsburg13 wrote:I'm really curious about the reasoning behind it. For the rules clarification to happen this late, and for it to be one that has such a big impact, there has to be some major reason they felt like they had to do it.Unome wrote:Rules clarification as of today: the points distribution is 20% pre-build, 40% onsite build, and 40% test. This might be one of the latest rules clarification ever issued, and it's a rather major one too.
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So I'm a States supervisor for Protein Modeling. I can't say much, but my understanding is that there really isn't a lot of...safety around the prebuild rubric. It is pay-to-win.CookiePie1 wrote:Maybe it goes to some of the 'pay-to-win' type things. I think some schools are sinking a ton of money into it and they probably just don't want that.EastStroudsburg13 wrote:I'm really curious about the reasoning behind it. For the rules clarification to happen this late, and for it to be one that has such a big impact, there has to be some major reason they felt like they had to do it.Unome wrote:Rules clarification as of today: the points distribution is 20% pre-build, 40% onsite build, and 40% test. This might be one of the latest rules clarification ever issued, and it's a rather major one too.
https://www.soinc.org/events/rules-clarifications
The general gist is: if things haven't changed too much since 2015/6, I have pretty good reason to suspect that a good chunk of teams (including top teams) have the model and rubric. When I did PMod then, my Protein partner and coach got their hands on the prebuild rubric; I knew people at other schools who did the same.
The final straw was an incident of widespread distribution of the rubric. Afterwards, MSOE probably decided that it wasn't really fair to put so much value on the prebuild section and thus adjusted the score accordingly. It's a bit late to really do much else towards changing the event.
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I get the feeling that this was inevitable, considering the way the rubric is held in secret.primitive_polonium wrote:So I'm a States supervisor for Protein Modeling. I can't say much, but my understanding is that there really isn't a lot of...safety around the prebuild rubric. It is pay-to-win.CookiePie1 wrote:Maybe it goes to some of the 'pay-to-win' type things. I think some schools are sinking a ton of money into it and they probably just don't want that.EastStroudsburg13 wrote: I'm really curious about the reasoning behind it. For the rules clarification to happen this late, and for it to be one that has such a big impact, there has to be some major reason they felt like they had to do it.
The general gist is: if things haven't changed too much since 2015/6, I have pretty good reason to suspect that a good chunk of teams (including top teams) have the model and rubric. When I did PMod then, my Protein partner and coach got their hands on the prebuild rubric; I knew people at other schools who did the same.
The final straw was an incident of widespread distribution of the rubric. Afterwards, MSOE probably decided that it wasn't really fair to put so much value on the prebuild section and thus adjusted the score accordingly. It's a bit late to really do much else towards changing the event.
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Re: Protein Modeling C
I think I'm confused because looking at this, it would appear to start at Glu71, but looking at Jmol, it seems to start at Glu70. I noticed this with the other helices too - according to the sequence chain view, the first helix starts at Ile3, but the prebuild visualization environment colors it magenta starting from Asn2, etc. Should I just follow the sequence chain view from the PDB?CookiePie1 wrote:In Jmol, you can just do 'color structure' and hover your mouse on where the last helix begins (I think its purple for a 3-10 helix)Person wrote:Does the final alpha helix begin at Glu71, or Glu70?
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Re: Protein Modeling C
Hello! I was looking at past rubrics from this event in the past. I was wondering if anyone knew the differences between Loops and Turns they mention? Rubric from 2010 is below.
https://scioly.org/wiki/images/2/2e/201 ... Onsite.pdf
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