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Re: Junkyard Challenge (C)

Posted: March 6th, 2009, 8:11 am
by jazzy009
you should have the ruler built into the device. if you have to hold a ruler to measure the weight it will not be autonomous

Re: Junkyard Challenge (C)

Posted: March 6th, 2009, 11:41 am
by vofbassist
If you do go with a ruler that is fixed onto your device, don't try to make it yourself. There are many ways for calibrations to be off when you mark them by yourself. That, and the required/supplied/mystery material(s), can separate you from first and fifth, or something to that effect.

Re: Junkyard Challenge (C)

Posted: March 6th, 2009, 12:25 pm
by maggymay
jazzy009 wrote:you should have the ruler built into the device. if you have to hold a ruler to measure the weight it will not be autonomous
I think you could be wrong about using a ruler (maybe a graph or whatever) that is separate from the device. According to the official rules (at http://soinc.org/sites/default/files/up ... 009Tip.pdf )

f. Students may not simply estimate the mass of the Challenge Object by visual inspection or guessing.
Tables, graphs and calculators may be used to interpret the AD’s mass reading, but the AD itself may not be
touched after timing begins.


Competitors would use tables/graphs/calculators (and maybe a 'ruler') to interpret their results on Tipping the Scales.

Re: Junkyard Challenge (C)

Posted: March 6th, 2009, 4:49 pm
by Flavorflav
Tables, graphs and calculators are not really the same thing as a ruler. The former interpret the result of your autonomous device; with the latter, there is no result until you go in and measure. I would think that using a ruler would count as a touch, at the least. Without a built-in scale of some kind, the device isn't actually doing anything.

Re: Junkyard Challenge (C)

Posted: March 6th, 2009, 9:10 pm
by jazzy009
in a spring scale, we attached a ruler, read it without touching it, and then punched the numbers into a calculator that had a calibrated linear regression line on it. 10 seconds. not too bad.

Re: Junkyard Challenge (C)

Posted: March 7th, 2009, 6:12 pm
by call4angel
thanks a lot for all of your help....I won FIRST place!!!! THANK YOU- this forum helped a lot...coz before i visited this place i dint even know wht science olympiad was...so thanks all of you who answered my questions!!! :)

Ready to build my coin sorter :!: :!: :!:

Re: Junkyard Challenge (C)

Posted: March 7th, 2009, 6:24 pm
by maggymay
call4angel wrote:thanks a lot for all of your help....I won FIRST place!!!! THANK YOU- this forum helped a lot...coz before i visited this place i dint even know wht science olympiad was...so thanks all of you who answered my questions!!! :)

Ready to build my coin sorter :!: :!: :!:
Congrats :D .

Re: Junkyard Challenge (C)

Posted: March 7th, 2009, 8:14 pm
by Untitled
Are you allowed to use a multimeter to interpret data?

Re: Junkyard Challenge (C)

Posted: March 7th, 2009, 8:19 pm
by jazzy009
haha! excellent. yes as long as you create it autonomously it is legal. we have tried the same :D what part of the multimeter are you using?

Re: Junkyard Challenge (C)

Posted: March 7th, 2009, 8:21 pm
by Untitled
We are measuring amperes.