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Re: Future Aviation Events

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This is all covered in the rules.
Id recommend you know your rules forward and backward, its extremely useful so that you dont make your plane out of dimension.
Also helps when your design is borderline and you need to counter any argument ;) like with helicopters haha
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chalker7 wrote:
science8 wrote:Why does my plane do loops not circles? How do i get circles?
You really need to give us more information. We have no idea what your glider looks like, how you are launching it, what the flight profile is like, etc.
What do you need to know? im launching it with my launcher not by hand
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Just a FYI,

The best single flight time (in competition) at Ohio State this year was around 11 seconds.
The winner has something like 21 seconds for a 2 flight total.

I think the best flight during practice was around 16 seconds.

That being said, I think since it is a new trial event, I suspect many teams to have single flight times in the 3~5 second range.
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wlsguy wrote:Just a FYI,

The best single flight time (in competition) at Ohio State this year was around 11 seconds.
The winner has something like 21 seconds for a 2 flight total.

I think the best flight during practice was around 16 seconds.

That being said, I think since it is a new trial event, I suspect many teams to have single flight times in the 3~5 second range.
11 SECONDS WAS THE BEST!?!?!??
Wow... And that's Ohio. I was expecting times in the 20's for them.
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science8 wrote:
chalker7 wrote:
science8 wrote:Why does my plane do loops not circles? How do i get circles?
You really need to give us more information. We have no idea what your glider looks like, how you are launching it, what the flight profile is like, etc.
What do you need to know? im launching it with my launcher not by hand
science8, while I'm addressing this to you, everyone who asks a question needs to read and understand this.

We need to know everything. Seriously.
Are you flying your design, or one from the web. If yours, give us some design details, important to understand how your glider behaves in varying conditions. If a web design, which one.
What is your launcher. Rubber size (width & length) & type.
How are you launching. Angle from floor, tilt of wings, stretch on the rubber, etc.
What happens after you launch till the flight ends. What does the glider do on climb, in detail. In transition, in detail. On Descent, in detail.
If you hand launch the glider, how does it behave? Again, in detail.

You might ask why we need to know so much. I'm not a competitor, I'm an event supervisor. So is Chalker7 & others. Our goal is not to learn your secrets (there probably aren't any), our goal is to help.

BUT, we are limited to using this medium of printed words. This event is a complicated event (though it might not seem to be). There are several problems answering short questions like yours. One, are we using the words in the same way? Up the stream you already saw the discussion on terms. Another, while the question is simple, understanding the problem and figuring out an answer aren't. The answer often is, it depends. Without detail on your problem its hard to state anything more than general principals, which might not even apply if we misunderstood your question.

So, give us as many details as you can and we can get started on helping.

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So jander14indoor I was wondering what do you predict the top times of the gliders will be at Nationals?
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science8, while I'm addressing this to you, everyone who asks a question needs to read and understand this.

We need to know everything. Seriously.
Are you flying your design, or one from the web. If yours, give us some design details, important to understand how your glider behaves in varying conditions. If a web design, which one.
What is your launcher. Rubber size (width & length) & type.
How are you launching. Angle from floor, tilt of wings, stretch on the rubber, etc.
What happens after you launch till the flight ends. What does the glider do on climb, in detail. In transition, in detail. On Descent, in detail.
If you hand launch the glider, how does it behave? Again, in detail.

You might ask why we need to know so much. I'm not a competitor, I'm an event supervisor. So is Chalker7 & others. Our goal is not to learn your secrets (there probably aren't any), our goal is to help.

BUT, we are limited to using this medium of printed words. This event is a complicated event (though it might not seem to be). There are several problems answering short questions like yours. One, are we using the words in the same way? Up the stream you already saw the discussion on terms. Another, while the question is simple, understanding the problem and figuring out an answer aren't. The answer often is, it depends. Without detail on your problem its hard to state anything more than general principals, which might not even apply if we misunderstood your question.

So, give us as many details as you can and we can get started on helping.

Jeff Anderson
Livonia, MI[/quote]
Lol sorry. Well its my own design. I only fly it indoors and it does loops any way you throw it by hand or launcher. Launcher is a wooden Y. rubber size is 1/8th i believe and it is about 30 cm. tilt of wings is hardly any about even. Stretch hardly changes anything on this glider. It doesnt go up to the cieling it goes straight into a loop and then half way through the 2nd one it lands on its back and sinks. When it is hand launched it goes up even if i throw it straight and it does a loop and then always fails in the 2nd loop. It falls on its back and then goes down.
I hope thats all that is needed sorry I have so many questions. Thanks alot though
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What is everyone's best time so far?
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Science8:
Since I'm guessing this will be janderindoor's next question I'll throw it out there so he can answer you next time he logs on:
You made your own design, describe it. Since you ventured to make your own (cootos by the way, thats the way to do it) we need to know about that design to know how effective it could be/weaknesses. It might just be a flaw in your design that its doing that. Plans are easier to ask questions on since you can link someone to the page for a complete dimensioning

Also, what pitch are you launching from? (twisting) What angle are you launching from?
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mrsteven wrote:Science8:
Since I'm guessing this will be janderindoor's next question I'll throw it out there so he can answer you next time he logs on:
You made your own design, describe it. Since you ventured to make your own (cootos by the way, thats the way to do it) we need to know about that design to know how effective it could be/weaknesses. It might just be a flaw in your design that its doing that. Plans are easier to ask questions on since you can link someone to the page for a complete dimensioning

Also, what pitch are you launching from? (twisting) What angle are you launching from?
umm the main piece is 1/8 and the wing has 30 cm with 3 bends in it. what do you mean pitch? launching from i guess 160 if that makes sense.

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