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Re: Machines B/C

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:03 pm
by Umaroth
PandaShoelaces wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:09 am How does one go about solving problem 11 from compound machines? It seems like there's an extra unknown variable all the time.
Which test are you referring to?

Re: Machines B/C

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:07 pm
by PandaShoelaces
Umaroth wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:03 pm
PandaShoelaces wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:09 am How does one go about solving problem 11 from compound machines? It seems like there's an extra unknown variable all the time.
Which test are you referring to?
I'm referring to the Compound Machines test from the 2020 SSSS on the test exchange.

Re: Machines B/C

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:42 pm
by JoeyC
KE=.5mv^2
PE = mgh
mgh = .5mv^2
10h=12.5
h=1.25

IMA = L/h
L=10
IMA = 10/1.25
IMA = 8
(Using conservation of energy)

Re: Machines B/C

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:31 pm
by Darwinist721
what kinda string do ppl use to make their knots out of so they dont slip easily?

Re: Machines B/C

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:01 pm
by JoeyC
Most people just use fishing line - maybe use a bowline or some other knot to secure it.
If you want, you can use twine if you find it hard tying bowlines as simpler knots will do the trick there.

Re: Machines B/C

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:42 pm
by as1092
How do you calculate the AMA of an inclined plane if you are given the coefficient of kinetic friction and the length of the hypotenuse and height of the ramp? Thanks!

Re: Machines B/C

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:51 am
by smayya337
as1092 wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:42 pm How do you calculate the AMA of an inclined plane if you are given the coefficient of kinetic friction and the length of the hypotenuse and height of the ramp? Thanks!
Someone correct me if this is wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's , or the coefficient of friction times the length of the hypotenuse over the height.

Re: Machines B/C

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:01 pm
by MoMoney$$$;)0)
Hey guys, I was wondering what method you guys use to help get the mass ratio. I have started to practice using the lever, but I haven't been able to get a satisfactory time. Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Machines B/C

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:04 pm
by as1092
Vortexx2 wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:50 am
Unome wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:20 pm
jaggie34 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:25 am

Last time machines was a nats event, top score was about 98.1, so I'd expect about 44 as the top device score
The scoring formula weights time more heavily this year iirc. I would not expect more than exceptional teams to be below 30 seconds in B and 40 seconds in C (with effectively perfect ratio scores of course).
I would have to disagree. I do it in around 40 seconds but thats also me going pretty slow. I could definitely see teams getting sub 30 seconds (div c) and still getting perfect ratio scores.
Is your machine built to have one mass fixed permanently? Because my design right now has a fixed place for the lighter mass, but I think it would be more efficient to have mass B fixed permanently, so I take on average 1:30 for time, with 29+ ratio score. Any help would be appreciated. Like how did you build your device bc 40 seconds seems close to impossible for me.

Re: Machines B/C

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:29 pm
by as1092
Does anyone know what the IMA of the following pulley is? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZzM_6W ... sp=sharing. The answer key says it's 6, but don't you multiply the IMA's to get 8? This is from the UT Invitational this year. Thanks!