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Re: New York 2014

Posted: February 28th, 2014, 1:13 pm
by caseyotis
Flavorflav wrote:You may have only had three top tens twice times, but you also had two top tens eight times, all within a thirteen year period, during which you also had at least one top five team every year and a national team six times. That was a pretty competitive region.
I guess so. Key word "was," but I see your point.

Re: New York 2014

Posted: March 2nd, 2014, 2:35 pm
by blockhead
This goes back to the discussion of ST and posting scores. I think it is a big concern when a region doesn't post its scores. It is inconsistent with the spirit of SO. It raises questions about why a region does not view its scores as public when all the other regions post their data. Just like in science, It's questionable when you don't produce the data. What are they hiding? Even if the answer is nothing, it is troubling that they don't share the data.

Re: New York 2014

Posted: March 2nd, 2014, 3:08 pm
by syo_astro
I think it isn't the end of the world if they don't post them, though it is odd and they should. I don't know the coordinators, but I guess if you are really worried you could go ask Harold Miller or some supervisor to try to figure out what's going on? Sometimes people are busy or something, but I'm not the person running their tournament. I would also like to point out, they do send the score sheets, they just don't post them online. Casey said this (unless I misread). They really aren't hiding that much when any team from that region could tell you what they got from the sounds of it. So they do "produce and share data" from my point of view.

Re: New York 2014

Posted: March 2nd, 2014, 4:49 pm
by caseyotis
blockhead wrote:This goes back to the discussion of ST and posting scores. I think it is a big concern when a region doesn't post its scores. It is inconsistent with the spirit of SO. It raises questions about why a region does not view its scores as public when all the other regions post their data. Just like in science, It's questionable when you don't produce the data. What are they hiding? Even if the answer is nothing, it is troubling that they don't share the data.
I agree with this. The Div. B Southern Tier page still says TBA, and I believe they had their regional yesterday.

It isn't the end of the world, but it really shouldn't take too much time to post scores online. It shouldn't be our (the students) responsibility to do this.
And yes, they sent a scoresheet to every participating team. But if they can do that, it would be extremely easy to just post it on the newyorkscioly.org page.
They produce, but they barely share. Sharing with the participating teams so they can see how they did is only partially sharing. I'm most likely the only active scioly member from the Southern Tier (besides my teammates). You wouldn't know who won or even qualified for states if no one form the Southern Tier was here.

I don't know where I'm going with this. I just think all regional results should be posted online as a general policy.

Re: New York 2014

Posted: March 2nd, 2014, 5:50 pm
by silverheart7
http://newyorkscioly.org/SOPages/EasternLIB.html

Congratulations to everyone who had Regionals yesterday! I had such a good time at ELI, it's always such a nicely run tournament. I met a lot of people from different schools, and had a lot of fun. Good luck to everyone as they prepare for states!

Re: New York 2014

Posted: March 2nd, 2014, 8:48 pm
by blockhead
And yes, they sent a scoresheet to every participating team. But if they can do that, it would be extremely easy to just post it on the newyorkscioly.org page.
They produce, but they barely share. Sharing with the participating teams so they can see how they did is only partially sharing. I'm most likely the only active scioly member from the Southern Tier (besides my teammates). You wouldn't know who won or even qualified for states if no one form the Southern Tier was here.

I don't know where I'm going with this. I just think all regional results should be posted online as a general policy.


Do you now how many teams compete and was there a spread? Do you have totals for each team? I don't think they ever post their scores.

Re: New York 2014

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 3:48 am
by caseyotis
blockhead wrote:
And yes, they sent a scoresheet to every participating team. But if they can do that, it would be extremely easy to just post it on the newyorkscioly.org page.
They produce, but they barely share. Sharing with the participating teams so they can see how they did is only partially sharing. I'm most likely the only active scioly member from the Southern Tier (besides my teammates). You wouldn't know who won or even qualified for states if no one form the Southern Tier was here.

I don't know where I'm going with this. I just think all regional results should be posted online as a general policy.
Do you now how many teams compete and was there a spread? Do you have totals for each team? I don't think they ever post their scores.
There were fifteen teams from thirteen schools at our regional (Southern Tier, Div. C). I can post complete results here:
1) Vestal A - 62 (16)
2) Maine-Endwell - 85 (13)
3) Chenango Forks - 105 (11)
4) Ithaca - 108 (10)
5) Union-Endicott A - 121 (6)
6) Corning West - 127 (7)
7) Binghamton - 146 (4)
8) Seton Catholic Central - 172 (4)
9) Chenango Valley - 204 (1)
10) Johnson City - 206 (3)
11) Vestal B - 211 (2)
12) Deposit - 214 (1)
13) Tioga Central - 216 (1)
14) Union-Endicott B - 261 (1)
15) Sidney - 285 (0)
Vestal - 6
Maine-Endwell - 4
Chenango Forks - 3
Ithaca - 3
Union-Endicott - 1
Corning West - 1
Seton Catholic Central - 2
The rest - 0

Re: New York 2014

Posted: March 3rd, 2014, 3:58 pm
by blockhead
Mucho thanks Caseyotis

Re: New York 2014

Posted: March 4th, 2014, 5:41 pm
by samir1996
Hello. Does anyone know if the room numbers for the NY State Competition are posted? I can't find them on the website anywhere. Thanks!

Re: New York 2014

Posted: March 4th, 2014, 5:55 pm
by caseyotis
samir1996 wrote:Hello. Does anyone know if the room numbers for the NY State Competition are posted? I can't find them on the website anywhere. Thanks!
http://newyorkscioly.org/SOPages/StateScheduleC.html
I'm assuming you meant C.