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Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:00 pm
by Kyky
Scrambledeggs wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:49 pm Has anyone bought the subscription to birdsna? Is it useful/worth it?
I have it. It's ok. Honestly, some of it just doesn't seem useful. Like it's super dense and there's just soooo much. Also its just not great to read, like they use large words, and cite research papers. It's very wordy and honestly not really worth it. It's useful to buff up notes and yea it has a ton of info in one place. But like there are good free sites too.

That binder

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:18 pm
by Djsrock
I'm going to work on my binder, because, let's be honest, field guides SUCK. But, what do I put in mine? Looking at past tests here is what I'm picking up on:
Eggs
Habitat biome
Habitat map & migration
Flight feather (family)
Any strange things you come across reaching
Flightless? (It is assumed it can fly)
Sweet adaptations
Any near extinction times with dates!
Threats to bird
Food
Primary food
Nest
who chooses nest spot?
Who sits on nest?
Birds it is related to
Male, female, juvenile
How long is it juvenile
How does it hunt

does this seem good? I would love to know your feedback!

Herring Gull Taxon Change

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:23 pm
by alaughner
The Herring Gull was split into the European and American Herring Gull in 2005, but it seems like the National Bird list is still referring to it as though they were one taxon, by not specifying which type of Herring Gull.

Is the list wrong or am I deeply confused?

Re: Herring Gull Taxon Change

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:32 am
by hmmm
alaughner wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:23 pm The Herring Gull was split into the European and American Herring Gull in 2005, but it seems like the National Bird list is still referring to it as though they were one taxon, by not specifying which type of Herring Gull.

Is the list wrong or am I deeply confused?
Every scioly id list has sketchy taxonomy; it should probably be the American one.

Re: Herring Gull Taxon Change

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:51 am
by Kyky
hmmm wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:32 am
alaughner wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:23 pm The Herring Gull was split into the European and American Herring Gull in 2005, but it seems like the National Bird list is still referring to it as though they were one taxon, by not specifying which type of Herring Gull.

Is the list wrong or am I deeply confused?
Every scioly id list has sketchy taxonomy; it should probably be the American one.
Ye, and it doesn't hurt to have information on both either. Just always go by what the list says when writing an answer down on an answer sheet.

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:04 pm
by SilverBreeze
Kyky wrote:
hmmm wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:32 am
alaughner wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:23 pm The Herring Gull was split into the European and American Herring Gull in 2005, but it seems like the National Bird list is still referring to it as though they were one taxon, by not specifying which type of Herring Gull.

Is the list wrong or am I deeply confused?
Every scioly id list has sketchy taxonomy; it should probably be the American one.
Ye, and it doesn't hurt to have information on both either. Just always go by what the list says when writing an answer down on an answer sheet.
Adding on to this, it's a similar situation to the Screech Owl issue, with multiple species, and to a lesser extent the Clapper Rail issue(see National FAQs). Have information on both, but focus on the American one, and just write "Herring Gull" on the answer sheet.

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:56 am
by Nooran008
Hey quick question! I am making my binder for this event, and I was wondering if it would be a better idea to try compressing as many birds as possible on each page, so during the tournament, you would not have to go flipping through 100 pages. Would this be a better idea? Thanks!

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:58 am
by CPScienceDude
Nooran008 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:56 am Hey quick question! I am making my binder for this event, and I was wondering if it would be a better idea to try compressing as many birds as possible on each page, so during the tournament, you would not have to go flipping through 100 pages. Would this be a better idea? Thanks!
If you have memorized enough information on the birds, then I would say go for it. If not, just use tabs to mark the orders/families.

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:09 pm
by ChimpLopez
CPScienceDude wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:58 am
Nooran008 wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:56 am Hey quick question! I am making my binder for this event, and I was wondering if it would be a better idea to try compressing as many birds as possible on each page, so during the tournament, you would not have to go flipping through 100 pages. Would this be a better idea? Thanks!
If you have memorized enough information on the birds, then I would say go for it. If not, just use tabs to mark the orders/families.
I agree. At first, having more information on all the birds would be a better idea but as you and your partner keep practicing, you guys can figure out what information may or may not be extraneous and compress your binder from there.

Re: Ornithology B/C

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:39 pm
by GurtYo
Hi!

So basically we are done with our notes and now I am focusing on identifying the birds without the help of a field guide or other sources. I already have some of them down, but I'm using quizlet and it doesn't work that well because:

I just memorize the specific picture shown and not the actual identifying features of the bird
Most of the pictures are low quality or super zoomed out. In one of them you can't even see the bird!

Does anyone have a solution to this? I am looking for something with multiple pictures of each bird. Any help is appreciated!