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[sciolyfan2005]

They came 5th, not second. Gelinas got 2nd lol

You still seem to have some old information. That was before Cornell organizers fixed their mistake. http://www.springhousescioly.org/2019.html

Ezra should have the most updated information. That page is a team website, which doesn't necessarily override the word of a major scoring system. Maybe Springhouse originally came in 2nd and scoring updates changed their place to 5th.

Even if they got 2nd, I still wouldn't move them up. The margin between the top few teams at Cornell was really small, except for a medium sized margin between Community and Gelinas.

That makes sense to me.

[builderguy135]

They came 5th, not second. Gelinas got 2nd lol

You still seem to have some old information. That was before Cornell organizers fixed their mistake. http://www.springhousescioly.org/2019.html

Posted with the captains permission:

Hmmmmm........


Maybe Gelinas DID get second place.

[sciolyfan2005]

You still seem to have some old information. That was before Cornell organizers fixed their mistake. http://www.springhousescioly.org/2019.html

Posted with the captains permission:

Hmmmmm........


Maybe Gelinas DID get second place.

So you are saying that the Springhouse team page is publicly lying. Could it be that Cornell invitational organizers only wanted to acknowledge their mistake in private and did not update Ezra.

[builderguy135]

Posted with the captains permission:

Hmmmmm........


Maybe Gelinas DID get second place.

So you are saying that the Springhouse team page is publicly lying. Could it be that Cornell invitational organizers only wanted to acknowledge their mistake in private and did not update Ezra.

I never said they lied. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How did they get the trophy though? You can clearly see in the picture that Gelinas' captains are holding the second place trophy.

If they really got second place, I would assume that Cornell would make an announcement on their website, which I don't see.

[emmalasagna]

Hmmmmm........


Maybe Gelinas DID get second place.

So you are saying that the Springhouse team page is publicly lying. Could it be that Cornell invitational organizers only wanted to acknowledge their mistake in private and did not update Ezra.

I never said they lied. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How did they get the trophy though? You can clearly see in the picture that Gelinas' captains are holding the second place trophy.

If they really got second place, I would assume that Cornell would make an announcement on their website, which I don't see.

Also, if Cornell really made a scoring mistake, wouldn't they have informed the other affected teams (like in this case Gelinas for example) of their actual placements? Just curious as to why they would have only told one team, since a scoring error affects the placements of many teams.

[sciolyfan2005]

So you are saying that the Springhouse team page is publicly lying. Could it be that Cornell invitational organizers only wanted to acknowledge their mistake in private and did not update Ezra.

I never said they lied. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How did they get the trophy though? You can clearly see in the picture that Gelinas' captains are holding the second place trophy.

If they really got second place, I would assume that Cornell would make an announcement on their website, which I don't see.

Also, if Cornell really made a scoring mistake, wouldn't they have informed the other affected teams (like in this case Gelinas for example) of their actual placements? Just curious as to why they would have only told one team, since a scoring error affects the placements of many teams.

That is a pretty fair question. I am not sure anyone other than Cornell invitational organizers can fully answer it.

[builderguy135]

I never said they lied. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How did they get the trophy though? You can clearly see in the picture that Gelinas' captains are holding the second place trophy.

If they really got second place, I would assume that Cornell would make an announcement on their website, which I don't see.

Also, if Cornell really made a scoring mistake, wouldn't they have informed the other affected teams (like in this case Gelinas for example) of their actual placements? Just curious as to why they would have only told one team, since a scoring error affects the placements of many teams.

That is a pretty fair question. I am not sure anyone other than Cornell invitational organizers can fully answer it.

If this is true, when did the Cornell organizers send the new trophy?

[sciolyperson1]

I never said they lied. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How did they get the trophy though? You can clearly see in the picture that Gelinas' captains are holding the second place trophy.

If they really got second place, I would assume that Cornell would make an announcement on their website, which I don't see.

Also, if Cornell really made a scoring mistake, wouldn't they have informed the other affected teams (like in this case Gelinas for example) of their actual placements? Just curious as to why they would have only told one team, since a scoring error affects the placements of many teams.

That is a pretty fair question. I am not sure anyone other than Cornell invitational organizers can fully answer it.

@sciolyfan2005, how did you notice that they wrote that on their website? (just curious)

[IvanGe]

Also, if Cornell really made a scoring mistake, wouldn't they have informed the other affected teams (like in this case Gelinas for example) of their actual placements? Just curious as to why they would have only told one team, since a scoring error affects the placements of many teams.

That is a pretty fair question. I am not sure anyone other than Cornell invitational organizers can fully answer it.

@sciolyfan2005, how did you notice that they wrote that on their website? (just curious)

@sciolyfan2005 since when does one website powered by weebly rule over ezratech, a website that is used by teams all around the nation? Imo, ezratech website > springhouse website. plus, did you guys privately contact the organizers about spirnghouse getting 2nd? I’m pretty sure they would announce it rather than just tell one team. And what is the scoring issue anyway?

[sciolyfan2005]

That is a pretty fair question. I am not sure anyone other than Cornell invitational organizers can fully answer it.

@sciolyfan2005, how did you notice that they wrote that on their website? (just curious)

@sciolyfan2005 since when does one website powered by weebly rule over ezratech, a website that is used by teams all around the nation? Imo, ezratech website > springhouse website. plus, did you guys privately contact the organizers about spirnghouse getting 2nd? I’m pretty sure they would announce it rather than just tell one team. And what is the scoring issue anyway?

so here are the *facts*:

1. I know Springhouse's placement was changed at Cornell invitational from originally announced 5th place to 2nd place. The correction was made the next day after the tournament and the trophy was shipped later. Yes, this information is from the team directly. Why was it not posted publicly on Cornell invitational site and Ezra, no clue.
2. Springhouse team is not a fan of either pointing out the fact that they came second or that Cornell invitational made a mistake. I understand that point. It does not matter one bit in the long run.
3. While it was not posted publicly on Springhouse site, it did not matter. However since it was now posted on the team site, I just wanted to personally gauge what would the reaction and discussion on national predictions would be, if this was widely known, which lead to my post.
4. I did not anticipate the reaction the post got.

To be honest, it does not matter if anyone believes this or not. What difference would it make irrespective. However, it is truly very interesting to see the reaction of pure "dis-belief" and no benefit of doubt. A few posters seem to have jumped on it in a little too involved manner (especially Community MS). I do wonder why? I also wish I did not do this little experiment, but its a little too late for that

Good luck to everyone that made nationals. Its shaping out to be a great one.