New Jersey 2018

[WhatScience?]

I think build events have slot signups for two main reasons, 1. to minimize conflicts and 2. because that's how it has always been done...tbh I would love if all events had slot signups....lower chance of conflicts right

[lumosityfan]

Why would that change if lots are signup? Say you have a 60 minute slot with 6 teams signed up - simply take the first who appears and is willing to go right away, and if someone arrived too late to go, they don't go - no different than predetermined slots. There used to be a good description of a method for this on the Ohio website.

As for the original question, I suspect the most important reason is tradition. Here in Georgia, many tournaments make all events sign up.

That's my point though - before you could stagger around a bit because even though there are signups, ESs aren't going to go crazy if you end up going in the next time slot, which of course build up delays. Because of the inherent rules with event time slots that you must compete in that time slot, this prevents teams from just delaying their start time because otherwise they could get penalized. Thus, you prevent buildup of delays.

I think we are talking past each other. What are you referring to?

I was referring to your reasons why delays would change with signups.

[Unome]

That's my point though - before you could stagger around a bit because even though there are signups, ESs aren't going to go crazy if you end up going in the next time slot, which of course build up delays. Because of the inherent rules with event time slots that you must compete in that time slot, this prevents teams from just delaying their start time because otherwise they could get penalized. Thus, you prevent buildup of delays.

I think we are talking past each other. What are you referring to?

I was referring to your reasons why delays would change with signups.

That's what I thought. I can't understand what you're saying though - why would it matter whether teams were assigned to a slot or chose a slot via signup, as long as it's the same slot and number of teams?

[lumosityfan]

I think we are talking past each other. What are you referring to?

I was referring to your reasons why delays would change with signups.

That's what I thought. I can't understand what you're saying though - why would it matter whether teams were assigned to a slot or chose a slot via signup, as long as it's the same slot and number of teams?

It's because with slot signup, even though technically you're supposed to be in that slot, a lot of times ES will just let a team go in the next time slot if that team had delayed a bit with starting up (especially if multiple teams are like this - that happened at Princeton and it slowed us down). I was just thinking that while with slot signup going in the slot you signed up in you "should" compete in it but not inherently required to the actual rules for predetermined event slots say you have to compete in that slot no matter what. I guess this is just to force teams to compete when they need to and not to wait thus preventing built-up delays.

[Unome]

I was referring to your reasons why delays would change with signups.

That's what I thought. I can't understand what you're saying though - why would it matter whether teams were assigned to a slot or chose a slot via signup, as long as it's the same slot and number of teams?

It's because with slot signup, even though technically you're supposed to be in that slot, a lot of times ES will just let a team go in the next time slot if that team had delayed a bit with starting up (especially if multiple teams are like this - that happened at Princeton and it slowed us down). I was just thinking that while with slot signup going in the slot you signed up in you "should" compete in it but not inherently required to the actual rules for predetermined event slots say you have to compete in that slot no matter what. I guess this is just to force teams to compete when they need to and not to wait thus preventing built-up delays.

Simply being strict with the rules would have the same effect, I would think. If a team is sufficiently late that they're into another timeslot, teams signed up for that timeslot should get priority.

[lumosityfan]

That's what I thought. I can't understand what you're saying though - why would it matter whether teams were assigned to a slot or chose a slot via signup, as long as it's the same slot and number of teams?

It's because with slot signup, even though technically you're supposed to be in that slot, a lot of times ES will just let a team go in the next time slot if that team had delayed a bit with starting up (especially if multiple teams are like this - that happened at Princeton and it slowed us down). I was just thinking that while with slot signup going in the slot you signed up in you "should" compete in it but not inherently required to the actual rules for predetermined event slots say you have to compete in that slot no matter what. I guess this is just to force teams to compete when they need to and not to wait thus preventing built-up delays.

Simply being strict with the rules would have the same effect, I would think. If a team is sufficiently late that they're into another timeslot, teams signed up for that timeslot should get priority.

True and certainly we did the same thing. i guess just assigning slots just would expedite that process because you would still have inherent delays with allowing the teams signed up for that time slot to get priority.

[Unome]

It's because with slot signup, even though technically you're supposed to be in that slot, a lot of times ES will just let a team go in the next time slot if that team had delayed a bit with starting up (especially if multiple teams are like this - that happened at Princeton and it slowed us down). I was just thinking that while with slot signup going in the slot you signed up in you "should" compete in it but not inherently required to the actual rules for predetermined event slots say you have to compete in that slot no matter what. I guess this is just to force teams to compete when they need to and not to wait thus preventing built-up delays.

Simply being strict with the rules would have the same effect, I would think. If a team is sufficiently late that they're into another timeslot, teams signed up for that timeslot should get priority.

True and certainly we did the same thing. i guess just assigning slots just would expedite that process because you would still have inherent delays with allowing the teams signed up for that time slot to get priority.

But the same situation happens with assigned slots, where teams might be late to their slot.

[lumosityfan]

Simply being strict with the rules would have the same effect, I would think. If a team is sufficiently late that they're into another timeslot, teams signed up for that timeslot should get priority.

True and certainly we did the same thing. i guess just assigning slots just would expedite that process because you would still have inherent delays with allowing the teams signed up for that time slot to get priority.

But the same situation happens with assigned slots, where teams might be late to their slot.

True. I guess I'm a stickler with the rules and all and that it's guaranteed preassigned teams have to compete in their slots while sign-ups seem a bit wavery.

[Unome]

True and certainly we did the same thing. i guess just assigning slots just would expedite that process because you would still have inherent delays with allowing the teams signed up for that time slot to get priority.

But the same situation happens with assigned slots, where teams might be late to their slot.

True. I guess I'm a stickler with the rules and all and that it's guaranteed preassigned teams have to compete in their slots while sign-ups seem a bit wavery.

It's probably partly because I'm so used to signups being as definitive as assigned slots, being in Georgia and all.

[WhatScience?]

Who here things that their school starts preparing for regionals way too late..Because I do