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Re: Hardest Science Olympiad Event, in your opinion?
Posted: April 26th, 2018, 5:01 pm
by Skink
PM2017 wrote:Also, you have to remember, SciOly events only have 50 minutes per test. I don't think you can develop an entire game within that timeframe using other languages, and even if you can, most people doing Game On are not going to be as amazing with computer science as you are.
This is why Game On (or, even, Experimental, perhaps) might be better done outside with the finished product brought to competition for presentation and scoring rather than done there in only 50min. The sky becomes the limit, then, and it's not pay to win-ish like some engineering events.
Re: Hardest Science Olympiad Event, in your opinion?
Posted: April 26th, 2018, 6:06 pm
by Name
Skink wrote:PM2017 wrote:Also, you have to remember, SciOly events only have 50 minutes per test. I don't think you can develop an entire game within that timeframe using other languages, and even if you can, most people doing Game On are not going to be as amazing with computer science as you are.
This is why Game On (or, even, Experimental, perhaps) might be better done outside with the finished product brought to competition for presentation and scoring rather than done there in only 50min. The sky becomes the limit, then, and it's not pay to win-ish like some engineering events.
There's the possibility of teams giving each other already made designs, especially if there's multiple teams from a school. With build events you can't just give another team a build, but with a thing that can be online premade, teams will trade it and for alot.
Re: Hardest Science Olympiad Event, in your opinion?
Posted: April 29th, 2018, 3:16 pm
by radioactivated
Robot Arm. Not only are robotics parts generally expensive, but you need to get someone on your team who has an above-beginner knowledge of robotics.
Re: Hardest Science Olympiad Event, in your opinion?
Posted: April 29th, 2018, 7:07 pm
by CMS AC
All events are hard to win - the events that give you a better chance are the ones that people practice less and hate more, but those tend to be a lot more unpredictable and random.
Someone should make a spreadsheet for calculating what is the most random event in terms of standard deviation of events at 2017 nationals for B and C and rank them in order of how much they deviate from the team's total score.
Re: Hardest Science Olympiad Event, in your opinion?
Posted: April 29th, 2018, 7:09 pm
by Skink
CMS AC wrote:Someone should make a spreadsheet for calculating what is the most random event in terms of standard deviation of events at 2017 nationals for B and C and rank them in order of how much they deviate from the team's total score.
Someone did an analysis along these lines semirecently. Search for somethingorother events predictive of team score.
Re: Hardest Science Olympiad Event, in your opinion?
Posted: May 1st, 2018, 8:43 am
by jaspattack
A lot of people that I've talked to have said Mission Possible. So many things can go wrong with build events that a lot of people [myself included] just don't want to bother with them. Wright Stuff is a challenge, but the only thing that prevented me from placing at state was a poor gym setup [nets and equipment left out, stopped my plane dead in its tracks]. I think I just had good luck with WIDI, and even though I did really well with it this year I don't think I'll do it next year with a different partner.
Re: Hardest Science Olympiad Event, in your opinion?
Posted: May 1st, 2018, 10:21 am
by CMS AC
Skink wrote:CMS AC wrote:Someone should make a spreadsheet for calculating what is the most random event in terms of standard deviation of events at 2017 nationals for B and C and rank them in order of how much they deviate from the team's total score.
Someone did an analysis along these lines semirecently. Search for somethingorother events predictive of team score.
Can you link it to me? Can't find it.
Re: Hardest Science Olympiad Event, in your opinion?
Posted: May 8th, 2018, 2:09 pm
by leftovers
I would probably say Astronomy, Mission Possible, and Protein Modeling.
Astronomy: I've never actually had this event, but I've filled in with friends, and the amount of info was overwhelming (I know they get to take in a lot of resources, but in my opinion that just makes it harder).
Mission Possible: I've never had it either, but I've assisted at a competition before, and it seems pretty hard to me (also I'm terrible at building events, so there's that).
Protein Modeling: I had it as a freshman and I loved it, but it was hard since I hadn't had all of my sciences yet. I'm hoping to get it when it rotates back in (hopefully next year), and do better since I've now taken AP Chem, and am considering taking AP Bio next year at the same time as Physics.
Re: Hardest Science Olympiad Event, in your opinion?
Posted: May 8th, 2018, 3:07 pm
by PM2017
leftovers wrote:I would probably say Astronomy, Mission Possible, and Protein Modeling.
Astronomy: I've never actually had this event, but I've filled in with friends, and the amount of info was overwhelming (I know they get to take in a lot of resources, but in my opinion that just makes it harder).
Mission Possible: I've never had it either, but I've assisted at a competition before, and it seems pretty hard to me (also I'm terrible at building events, so there's that).
Protein Modeling: I had it as a freshman and I loved it, but it was hard since I hadn't had all of my sciences yet. I'm hoping to get it when it rotates back in (hopefully next year), and do better since I've now taken AP Chem, and am considering taking AP Bio next year at the same time as Physics.
Astro is hard to learn but very easy to medal once you put in that initial effort.
Re: Hardest Science Olympiad Event, in your opinion?
Posted: May 8th, 2018, 4:40 pm
by leftovers
PM2017 wrote:leftovers wrote:I would probably say Astronomy, Mission Possible, and Protein Modeling.
Astronomy: I've never actually had this event, but I've filled in with friends, and the amount of info was overwhelming (I know they get to take in a lot of resources, but in my opinion that just makes it harder).
Mission Possible: I've never had it either, but I've assisted at a competition before, and it seems pretty hard to me (also I'm terrible at building events, so there's that).
Protein Modeling: I had it as a freshman and I loved it, but it was hard since I hadn't had all of my sciences yet. I'm hoping to get it when it rotates back in (hopefully next year), and do better since I've now taken AP Chem, and am considering taking AP Bio next year at the same time as Physics.
Astro is hard to learn but very easy to medal once you put in that initial effort.
That makes sense, I guess it was just overwhelming for me trying to assist my teammate when I had no experience in that area. It definitely seems like the type of event that it would be really fun if you knew it really well!