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bromothymol wrote: February 9th, 2020, 2:48 pm
sciolyperson1 wrote: February 9th, 2020, 2:38 pm Lol, don't both scioly_veteran and bromothymol go to WWP South?
I have no idea who this scioly_veteran person even is lol probably some random troll from North
lmaoooooo what the heck
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Re: New Jersey 2020

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CookiePie1 wrote: February 9th, 2020, 2:52 pm
bromothymol wrote: February 9th, 2020, 2:48 pm
sciolyperson1 wrote: February 9th, 2020, 2:38 pm Lol, don't both scioly_veteran and bromothymol go to WWP South?
I have no idea who this scioly_veteran person even is lol probably some random troll from North
lmaoooooo what the heck
Hey SSC,

This is a pretty long message, but it contains important information, so please read it in whole:

Word on the street is that he/she is south's motivational speaker.
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bromothymol wrote: February 9th, 2020, 2:48 pm
sciolyperson1 wrote: February 9th, 2020, 2:38 pm Lol, don't both scioly_veteran and bromothymol go to WWP South?
I have no idea who this scioly_veteran person even is lol probably some random troll from North
their signature says they went to 2017 nats div c so its south :?:
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rabbitman wrote: February 9th, 2020, 2:54 pm
CookiePie1 wrote: February 9th, 2020, 2:52 pm
bromothymol wrote: February 9th, 2020, 2:48 pm
I have no idea who this scioly_veteran person even is lol probably some random troll from North
lmaoooooo what the heck
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This is a pretty long message, but it contains important information, so please read it in whole:

Word on the street is that he/she is south's motivational speaker.
Who's the speaker, Mitchell Gray?
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Re: New Jersey 2020

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scioly_veteran wrote: February 9th, 2020, 1:37 pm
After taking a look at Princeton Invite results, I changed my mind slightly. Here goes my updated predictions for NJ States 2020: (Explanation will be provided after)

1) West Windsor-Plainsboro HS North (57)
2) West Windsor-Plainsboro HS South (84)
3) Montgomery HS (112)
4) South Brunswick HS (198)
5) East Brunswick HS (212)
6) Princeton HS (284)

Based off Princeton, I have to start by commending North on their impressive performance. They humiliated South with a total score of 114 versus South's total score of 257. Most notably, North had just 3 events where they placed greater than 10th place, but all three were all better than 19th place, which clearly shows that North is capable of performing consistently in almost all their events. On the other hand, South's builds once again [as predicted in my previous post] weighed them down tremendously [failing to place in any of their build events at PUSO]. At this current rate, I can only see this pattern to be continued at the State level. I actually had the chance to personally talk with one of South's primary builders, and he just seemed to be as uncommitted to Science Olympiad in general this year, so I'm not sure how they will manage to step their builds up. Despite all this, the most important thing to point out is the fact that South brought their 95% stacked teams to Princeton [and I confirmed this with all four of their captains], so I can only speculate that these performances will be carried onto NJ States (and even stronger performances for North, as North was unstacked). What was also notable was that Montgomery was close behind South, placing fifth with an overall score of 285. They still have potential to beat out South this year, but are a far shot away from coming close to North. Also, South Brunswick and East Brunswick seem to be relatively close in terms of performance, just as South and Montgomery are, so 4 and 5 could be easily swapped for States. I still have yet to see JP Stevens at any invites, but Princeton HS had a much weaker than anticipated performance at PUSO, compared to previous years. In conclusion, this year's state title will most probably go to North, and it may very easily be one of those years where the final score of the state champ team is a sub 60 score. North has been weak in either study or builds in previous years, but this year they've managed to work to perfect both parts. South does have a chance of returning to reign as state champs, but most likely not this year. Let me know if you agree or disagree with my predictions in the comments below!

Stay tuned for my last set of predictions after Penn invite!!
So I am a graduate from an Ohio school, but I was initially from New Jersey. I moved to Ohio at the beginning of high school, however, I personally know a few people from Montgomery. I would like to highlight the fact that I think Montgomery's placement is too high for States. I was shocked by their high placement at Yale (their superscore is first place). But I think Princeton shows their true standing as of right now. I know that they lost their senior builder last year, and their current build scores reflect that. They got low placements in Boomilever and Ping Pong Parachute. The gravity vehicle score was apparently pure luck according to one of their captains. They also seem to be struggling in other events as well. All in all, I don't see them getting third. I think teams like South Brunswick having the potential of beating them this year.

Between the West Windsor schools, WWPN is definitely favored. I also know a few people from both WWPN and WWPS (grads only though) and I honestly think WWPS has the potential of beating WWPN. From what I heard, I don't think WWPS is behind at all. Just like how they won regionals, I believe South will win states. (there is more that I know but I can't say with respect for the team)

I think Penn can show the true standings of each team, but until then, here are my predictions:

1) West Windsor-Plainsboro HS South (67)
2) West Windsor-Plainsboro HS North (74)
3) South Brunswick HS (107)
4) Montgomery HS (164)
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masterWIZ wrote: February 9th, 2020, 7:14 pm
scioly_veteran wrote: February 9th, 2020, 1:37 pm
After taking a look at Princeton Invite results, I changed my mind slightly. Here goes my updated predictions for NJ States 2020: (Explanation will be provided after)

1) West Windsor-Plainsboro HS North (57)
2) West Windsor-Plainsboro HS South (84)
3) Montgomery HS (112)
4) South Brunswick HS (198)
5) East Brunswick HS (212)
6) Princeton HS (284)

Based off Princeton, I have to start by commending North on their impressive performance. They humiliated South with a total score of 114 versus South's total score of 257. Most notably, North had just 3 events where they placed greater than 10th place, but all three were all better than 19th place, which clearly shows that North is capable of performing consistently in almost all their events. On the other hand, South's builds once again [as predicted in my previous post] weighed them down tremendously [failing to place in any of their build events at PUSO]. At this current rate, I can only see this pattern to be continued at the State level. I actually had the chance to personally talk with one of South's primary builders, and he just seemed to be as uncommitted to Science Olympiad in general this year, so I'm not sure how they will manage to step their builds up. Despite all this, the most important thing to point out is the fact that South brought their 95% stacked teams to Princeton [and I confirmed this with all four of their captains], so I can only speculate that these performances will be carried onto NJ States (and even stronger performances for North, as North was unstacked). What was also notable was that Montgomery was close behind South, placing fifth with an overall score of 285. They still have potential to beat out South this year, but are a far shot away from coming close to North. Also, South Brunswick and East Brunswick seem to be relatively close in terms of performance, just as South and Montgomery are, so 4 and 5 could be easily swapped for States. I still have yet to see JP Stevens at any invites, but Princeton HS had a much weaker than anticipated performance at PUSO, compared to previous years. In conclusion, this year's state title will most probably go to North, and it may very easily be one of those years where the final score of the state champ team is a sub 60 score. North has been weak in either study or builds in previous years, but this year they've managed to work to perfect both parts. South does have a chance of returning to reign as state champs, but most likely not this year. Let me know if you agree or disagree with my predictions in the comments below!

Stay tuned for my last set of predictions after Penn invite!!


I think Penn can show the true standings of each team

I have to agree. SOUP will hopefully show how both teams have changed since Princeton and probably be more representative of each team's score at states.
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Re: New Jersey 2020

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masterWIZ wrote: February 9th, 2020, 7:14 pm

Between the West Windsor schools, WWPN is definitely favored. I also know a few people from both WWPN and WWPS (grads only though) and I honestly think WWPS has the potential of beating WWPN. From what I heard, I don't think WWPS is behind at all. Just like how they won regionals, I believe South will win states. (there is more that I know but I can't say with respect for the team)

1) West Windsor-Plainsboro HS South (67)
2) West Windsor-Plainsboro HS North (74)
3) South Brunswick HS (107)
4) Montgomery HS (164)
Can you elaborate on what you heard about WWPS and WWPN? Regionals results are sort of irrelevant as WWPN brought their unstacked B team. WWPN has consistently defeated WWPS in all invites that they have attended together [often halving South's total stacked score], so I don't really see how South will gain an edge over North at States.

Based off of YUSO and PUSO results, I still find it difficult to believe that South Brunswick will have an edge over Montgomery at states. However, in the case that they do beat Montgomery to the podium, I feel that their scores will be closer together, both around 155.

Also, Penn will be an indicator of where the teams stand, but both North and South won't be bringing their full stacked teams due to the Science Bowl tournament that is on the same day.
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Division C predictions, in classic EastStroudsburg13 format:
  • WW-P North and WW-P South do seem pretty close right now. Although some of South's events are not doing well, I'm confident that their invitational results do not put themselves in a good light; they are always missing a few people here and there at all competitions.
  • Both WWPN and WWPS's results skip back and forth; WWPS's reg's score was scaringly strong (44 vs. 83, almost half WWPN), while WWPN's scores at Conestoga, MIT, and Princeton can also be described as "strong". Either way, the results can turn back and forth, but I'm leaning towards South for the gold.
  • Montgomery seems to be the main contender for 3rd place, Princeton results show that they are behind both WWP's, yet are still significantly ahead of S. Brunswick, Hillsborough, Princeton, and E. Brunswick.
  • Princeton HS does not seem as strong this year; although they got 3rd at regionals, there was a significant gap between them, S Brunswick, E Brunswick, and Hillsborough. These four schools will likely occupy places 4th-7th.
  • J.P's regional score was average at best, they placed behind E Brunswick, S Brunswick, Princeton, WWPN, and WWPS. Afaik they haven't been to any invitationals, which may or may not lead to them being a little behind S/E Brunswick, Princeton, and Hillsborough.

    1) WWPS
    2) WWPN
    3) Montgomery
    4) Hillsborough
    5) S. Brunswick
    6) E. Brunswick
    7) Princeton
    8) J.P
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sciolyperson1 wrote: February 11th, 2020, 8:29 pm Division C predictions, in classic EastStroudsburg13 format:
  • WW-P North and WW-P South do seem pretty close right now. Although some of South's events are not doing well, I'm confident that their invitational results do not put themselves in a good light; they are always missing a few people here and there at all competitions.
  • Both WWPN and WWPS's results skip back and forth; WWPS's reg's score was scaringly strong (44 vs. 83, almost half WWPN), while WWPN's scores at Conestoga, MIT, and Princeton can also be described as "strong". Either way, the results can turn back and forth, but I'm leaning towards South for the gold.
  • Montgomery seems to be the main contender for 3rd place, Princeton results show that they are behind both WWP's, yet are still significantly ahead of S. Brunswick, Hillsborough, Princeton, and E. Brunswick.
  • Princeton HS does not seem as strong this year; although they got 3rd at regionals, there was a significant gap between them, S Brunswick, E Brunswick, and Hillsborough. These four schools will likely occupy places 4th-7th.
  • J.P's regional score was average at best, they placed behind E Brunswick, S Brunswick, Princeton, WWPN, and WWPS. Afaik they haven't been to any invitationals, which may or may not lead to them being a little behind S/E Brunswick, Princeton, and Hillsborough.

    1) WWPS
    2) WWPN
    3) Montgomery
    4) Hillsborough
    5) S. Brunswick
    6) E. Brunswick
    7) Princeton
    8) J.P
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