New Jersey 2018

[Matholy]

I was just browing the old 2017 NJ Thread:
viewtopic.php?f=229&t=9676
There's 110 posts since Sept 2017. From the start of the season to now, there are already 110 posts on this forum.

Reading through the thread:
I don't have a recording of states, although the NJ Facebook page has images.
We would all be really realllly happy to get top 10. We were so close XD.
GL Grover!
WIDI failed because they switched out ANOTHER person just for nats widi.
WIDI is really random. At states, 21st team got 1st, 17th team got 2nd, 25th team got 3rd. Something's seriously wrong. I wouldn't be suprised if they reversed the scores.

[pb5754]

sort of disappointed to see islip canceled tomorrow as it was the first invitational is the area

it would have been interesting to see how wwpn wwps and montgomery compare this year

[lumosityfan]

Camden County College Regional schedule and NJIT Regional schedule now posted.

[Matholy]

Welp finally posted.

I really don't understand why we (UCC) can't sign up for BB and Tower slots.

But if you really think about it why should we even be able to choose slots? Are the noticeable advantages/disadvantages to going 1st vs 6th slot? Doesn't this just make it harder for ESs to coordinate the teams?
So basically whats the purpose of choosing building slots?

[knottingpurple]

Welp finally posted.

I really don't understand why we (UCC) can't sign up for BB and Tower slots.

But if you really think about it why should we even be able to choose slots? Are the noticeable advantages/disadvantages to going 1st vs 6th slot? Doesn't this just make it harder for ESs to coordinate the teams?
So basically whats the purpose of choosing building slots?

I don't actually build so idk but I always imagined it was just something about ending up with teams having fewer schedule conflicts, if your builders can choose to compete during a slot that isn't their other events? But if that were the case you'd wonder why all events aren't like that, so I really don't know. I'm sure somebody else will know more than I do.

[Matholy]

Every competition I've been to (Rustin, New Tripoli, States, Nats) OTHER THAN REGIONALS have let us choose the blocks, and TBH I've taken it for granted. I've never questioned it, but looking back on it, I should've.

And I mean, I'm a builder, so I've never had any conflicts. I've never really cared about anyone else's events, so choosing the time slot didn't really matter to me. I just made sure that I didn't have 4 events in a row.

[lumosityfan]

Welp finally posted.

I really don't understand why we (UCC) can't sign up for BB and Tower slots.

But if you really think about it why should we even be able to choose slots? Are the noticeable advantages/disadvantages to going 1st vs 6th slot? Doesn't this just make it harder for ESs to coordinate the teams?
So basically whats the purpose of choosing building slots?

As a former helicopters event supervisor at Princeton in 2017, I feel compelled to answer this question to the best of my knowledge. From my experience, one of the most annoying things was when teams just went into the room and even though they were supposed to compete in that time slot, they didn't actually go up immediately but rather just waited for 20 minutes before the first team competed. This led to a good amount of delays that didn't collapse the tournament but certainly made it more annoying to administer. I think the reason for these event slot predetermination is to basically force teams to be timely in their competing time. Now, they have to compete soon because otherwise if they delay, they risk competing in another time slot which is of course not allowed.

[Unome]

Welp finally posted.

I really don't understand why we (UCC) can't sign up for BB and Tower slots.

But if you really think about it why should we even be able to choose slots? Are the noticeable advantages/disadvantages to going 1st vs 6th slot? Doesn't this just make it harder for ESs to coordinate the teams?
So basically whats the purpose of choosing building slots?

As a former helicopters event supervisor at Princeton in 2017, I feel compelled to answer this question to the best of my knowledge. From my experience, one of the most annoying things was when teams just went into the room and even though they were supposed to compete in that time slot, they didn't actually go up immediately but rather just waited for 20 minutes before the first team competed. This led to a good amount of delays that didn't collapse the tournament but certainly made it more annoying to administer. I think the reason for these event slot predetermination is to basically force teams to be timely in their competing time. Now, they have to compete soon because otherwise if they delay, they risk competing in another time slot which is of course not allowed.

Why would that change if lots are signup? Say you have a 60 minute slot with 6 teams signed up - simply take the first who appears and is willing to go right away, and if someone arrived too late to go, they don't go - no different than predetermined slots. There used to be a good description of a method for this on the Ohio website.

As for the original question, I suspect the most important reason is tradition. Here in Georgia, many tournaments make all events sign up.

[lumosityfan]

Welp finally posted.

I really don't understand why we (UCC) can't sign up for BB and Tower slots.

But if you really think about it why should we even be able to choose slots? Are the noticeable advantages/disadvantages to going 1st vs 6th slot? Doesn't this just make it harder for ESs to coordinate the teams?
So basically whats the purpose of choosing building slots?

As a former helicopters event supervisor at Princeton in 2017, I feel compelled to answer this question to the best of my knowledge. From my experience, one of the most annoying things was when teams just went into the room and even though they were supposed to compete in that time slot, they didn't actually go up immediately but rather just waited for 20 minutes before the first team competed. This led to a good amount of delays that didn't collapse the tournament but certainly made it more annoying to administer. I think the reason for these event slot predetermination is to basically force teams to be timely in their competing time. Now, they have to compete soon because otherwise if they delay, they risk competing in another time slot which is of course not allowed.

Why would that change if lots are signup? Say you have a 60 minute slot with 6 teams signed up - simply take the first who appears and is willing to go right away, and if someone arrived too late to go, they don't go - no different than predetermined slots. There used to be a good description of a method for this on the Ohio website.

As for the original question, I suspect the most important reason is tradition. Here in Georgia, many tournaments make all events sign up.

That's my point though - before you could stagger around a bit because even though there are signups, ESs aren't going to go crazy if you end up going in the next time slot, which of course build up delays. Because of the inherent rules with event time slots that you must compete in that time slot, this prevents teams from just delaying their start time because otherwise they could get penalized. Thus, you prevent buildup of delays.

[Unome]

As a former helicopters event supervisor at Princeton in 2017, I feel compelled to answer this question to the best of my knowledge. From my experience, one of the most annoying things was when teams just went into the room and even though they were supposed to compete in that time slot, they didn't actually go up immediately but rather just waited for 20 minutes before the first team competed. This led to a good amount of delays that didn't collapse the tournament but certainly made it more annoying to administer. I think the reason for these event slot predetermination is to basically force teams to be timely in their competing time. Now, they have to compete soon because otherwise if they delay, they risk competing in another time slot which is of course not allowed.

Why would that change if lots are signup? Say you have a 60 minute slot with 6 teams signed up - simply take the first who appears and is willing to go right away, and if someone arrived too late to go, they don't go - no different than predetermined slots. There used to be a good description of a method for this on the Ohio website.

As for the original question, I suspect the most important reason is tradition. Here in Georgia, many tournaments make all events sign up.

That's my point though - before you could stagger around a bit because even though there are signups, ESs aren't going to go crazy if you end up going in the next time slot, which of course build up delays. Because of the inherent rules with event time slots that you must compete in that time slot, this prevents teams from just delaying their start time because otherwise they could get penalized. Thus, you prevent buildup of delays.

I think we are talking past each other. What are you referring to?