I'm trying to get 10/14 tasks ready for the Boyceville Invite on 12/2 with no battery bonus, but that's probably too ambitious.
Regarding the water task, you can also have a cup full of highly concentrated salt water with your electrodes just above the water level, so the addition of a small amount of water will close the circuit.
Mission Possible C
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Re: Mission Possible C
Good idea.dbli2000 wrote:I'm trying to get 10/14 tasks ready for the Boyceville Invite on 12/2 with no battery bonus, but that's probably too ambitious.
Regarding the water task, you can also have a cup full of highly concentrated salt water with your electrodes just above the water level, so the addition of a small amount of water will close the circuit.
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Re: Mission Possible C
Do you guys think HCl is allowed?
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Re: Mission Possible C
Well, let's look at it this way:
Vinegar (~5% acetic acid, balance water): Here's a random googled MSDS that indicates it is not hazardous and requires no special handling equipment https://www.cos.net.au/msds/SAUC3010.pdf
Glacial Acetic acid (100%): Here's a random googled MSDS that incidates you need splash googles, gloves, full body suit, boots, and a respirator to safely handle it http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9922769
Same chemical obviously, just a different dilution. Now MSDS sheets take a pretty grim outlook on things, but I'm not going to let you run a machine with 100% acetic acid. Vinegar, no problem.
Here's a MSDS for 20~38% HCl: http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9924285
I'm curious, what are you looking to do with HCl (in whatever concentration)?
Vinegar (~5% acetic acid, balance water): Here's a random googled MSDS that indicates it is not hazardous and requires no special handling equipment https://www.cos.net.au/msds/SAUC3010.pdf
Glacial Acetic acid (100%): Here's a random googled MSDS that incidates you need splash googles, gloves, full body suit, boots, and a respirator to safely handle it http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9922769
Same chemical obviously, just a different dilution. Now MSDS sheets take a pretty grim outlook on things, but I'm not going to let you run a machine with 100% acetic acid. Vinegar, no problem.
Here's a MSDS for 20~38% HCl: http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9924285
Very hazardous in case of skin contact...of eye contact...of ingestion. Skin contact may produce burns. Severe over-exposure can result in death.
I'm not coming to judge you with a vapor respirator, so even if you have one for yourself I'm still not going to let you run a machine with 100% acetic acid or 20% HCl in itSplash goggles. Full suit. Vapor respirator. Boots. Gloves. A self contained breathing apparatus should be used to avoid
inhalation of the product. Suggested protective clothing might not be sufficient; consult a specialist BEFORE handling this
product.
I'm curious, what are you looking to do with HCl (in whatever concentration)?
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Re: Mission Possible C
Probably a reaction with a metal that is high on the activity series to produce Hydrogen gas to fill the balloon.Dark Sabre wrote: I'm curious, what are you looking to do with HCl (in whatever concentration)?
(That's what I was looking to do anyways)
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Re: Mission Possible C
Well, a reaction with HCl seems like the best way to create a 3-min chemical timer (which I'm trying to do while blowing up a balloon). @PM2017, I was also considering that at first but I believe hydrogen gas is banned. I've got ideas for other reactions with HCl.
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Re: Mission Possible C
Rule clarifications have been posted...
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Re: Mission Possible C
Can someone explain what the rule clarification for 4. f. changes?ScottMaurer19 wrote:Rule clarifications have been posted...
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Re: Mission Possible C
The change essentially includes "scoring" as one of the things that stops after the End Task/180 seconds. There are many possible implications; for example, you cannot incur penalties after this point. Say your device catches on fire, but the event supervisor deems it not a safety concern and allows it to continue running. With this clarification, you would be able to put out the fire after the end of your device run without fear of incurring any penalties (I took this example directly from something Uncle Fester posted some years ago).PM2017 wrote:Can someone explain what the rule clarification for 4. f. changes?ScottMaurer19 wrote:Rule clarifications have been posted...
Regarding the other clarifications, I believe something along those lines was mentioned at SOCA (that they were not intending to emphasize the "chemical" and "reaction" parts), though I don't remember exactly.
Re: Mission Possible C
With the rule clarification for 4.b.vi, doesn't any transfer that satisfies 4.b.iii satisfy 4b.vi (i.e. transfers that produce light activating a photocell use light to initiate the next transfer)? I know there can't be any parallel tasks/one object can only be used for one action, but what's the point of keeping 4.b.vi? To have 2 light initiated actions?