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Re: Disease Detectives B/C

Posted: March 26th, 2018, 6:34 pm
by UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F
WhatScience? wrote:I have decided to take Unome's advice and start prepping for next year. I will be in C for the first time.

Does anyone have a list of statistics i need to know.
Anything from Chi-squared tests to odds ratios and risk ratios. http://www.fao.org/wairdocs/ilri/x5436e/x5436e00.htm

Re: Disease Detectives B/C

Posted: March 27th, 2018, 7:12 am
by Killboe
Does anybody have any nationals foodborne illness tests? It's my first year going to nats and I don't know what to study.

Re: Disease Detectives B/C

Posted: March 27th, 2018, 8:50 am
by Nerd_Bunny
Killboe wrote:Does anybody have any nationals foodborne illness tests? It's my first year going to nats and I don't know what to study.
Have you gone through all the tests here and here? If you take about 2-3 tests per week (or one a day if you really want to) and make a habit of learning anything you get wrong on the test, you should do very well at Nats. I see that you are in Division B, but that doesn't mean you should not take Division C tests. I did that my last year of B and it really helped me in Disease Detectives. (You can see my rank in my signature. ;) )

Re: Disease Detectives B/C

Posted: March 27th, 2018, 9:02 am
by Nerd_Bunny
WhatScience? wrote:I have decided to take Unome's advice and start prepping for next year. I will be in C for the first time.

Does anyone have a list of statistics i need to know.
Chi-squares- these are not as hard as they look. PM me if you want a good explanation. I've posted on them before but have since perfected my methods. Finally I found the correct algebraic formula. I've seen these on almost every high-level Division C test.
Types of bias- have a long list of any types of bias you come across in test-taking along with explanations and examples.
Cochran Mantel-Haenszel summary odds ratio- this is a mouthful but it's just a lot of algebra. The 2017 Brookwood test (EDIT: key) on the test exchange has this formula. The formula they give for the chi-squares is wrong. Do not follow in my naive footsteps and use their chi-squares formula. But the CM-H test formula is correct, as far as I know. https://scioly.org/tests/files/diseased ... _test1.pdf
Also- just another tip in general- make a huge vocabulary list on your information sheet. I think we have at least 100 words that my partner and I have both used multiple times on many tests.

EDIT 2: Here's the key to the Brookwood test. Again, their chi-squares stuff is incorrect, but the CM-H stuff is correct- I haven't seen anything that disproves their formula. https://scioly.org/tests/files/diseased ... od_key.pdf

Re: Disease Detectives B/C

Posted: March 27th, 2018, 1:52 pm
by Froggie
I know this is a very very very very very very very long shot, but does anyone have raw scores for 2017 nats?

Re: Disease Detectives B/C

Posted: March 27th, 2018, 2:26 pm
by Tailsfan101
Froggie wrote:I know this is a very very very very very very very long shot, but does anyone have raw scores for 2017 nats?
The 2017 Nationals test packet included graphs depicting raw scores for each team in each event, so yes, I have raw scores, as I bought that B packet.

Re: Disease Detectives B/C

Posted: March 27th, 2018, 2:28 pm
by Froggie
Tailsfan101 wrote:
Froggie wrote:I know this is a very very very very very very very long shot, but does anyone have raw scores for 2017 nats?
The 2017 Nationals test packet included graphs depicting raw scores for each team in each event, so yes, I have raw scores, as I bought that B packet.
Oh ok thanks.

Re: Disease Detectives B/C

Posted: March 27th, 2018, 4:25 pm
by Nerd_Bunny
Tailsfan101 wrote:
Froggie wrote:I know this is a very very very very very very very long shot, but does anyone have raw scores for 2017 nats?
The 2017 Nationals test packet included graphs depicting raw scores for each team in each event, so yes, I have raw scores, as I bought that B packet.
Just curious- what was our score compared to the other scores? :?:

Re: Disease Detectives B/C

Posted: March 28th, 2018, 6:51 am
by Killboe
My score in the states for DD was an 82, but that was because they gave us 50 minutes to do 70 multiple choice and 15 graph questions. I got 75 done.

Re: Disease Detectives B/C

Posted: March 28th, 2018, 6:53 am
by Tailsfan101
Nerd_Bunny wrote:
Tailsfan101 wrote:
Froggie wrote:I know this is a very very very very very very very long shot, but does anyone have raw scores for 2017 nats?
The 2017 Nationals test packet included graphs depicting raw scores for each team in each event, so yes, I have raw scores, as I bought that B packet.
Just curious- what was our score compared to the other scores? :?:
It's a little hard to read, but it looks like our score was about 98, whereas 6th place had ~111 and 1st had 121.