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fanjiatian wrote:That's not saying much considering many study events were not administered/graded by the original test writers but rather last minute volunteers who were clueless about their events. Speaking as someone who helped write and find writers for several events only to have them graded without partial credit, despite the rubrics clearly allocating for partial credit.

Isnt there a person double checking graders? Even when i supervised elementary school science olympiad (div a), i had people checking my grading

windu34 wrote:

fanjiatian wrote:That's not saying much considering many study events were not administered/graded by the original test writers but rather last minute volunteers who were clueless about their events. Speaking as someone who helped write and find writers for several events only to have them graded without partial credit, despite the rubrics clearly allocating for partial credit.

Isnt there a person double checking graders? Even when i supervised elementary school science olympiad (div a), i had people checking my grading

Many regional and state tournaments do not have time nor resources to double check grading.

bernard wrote:

windu34 wrote:

fanjiatian wrote:That's not saying much considering many study events were not administered/graded by the original test writers but rather last minute volunteers who were clueless about their events. Speaking as someone who helped write and find writers for several events only to have them graded without partial credit, despite the rubrics clearly allocating for partial credit.

Isnt there a person double checking graders? Even when i supervised elementary school science olympiad (div a), i had people checking my grading

Many regional and state tournaments do not have time nor resources to double check grading.

Maybe not in the 3 hours between the last event and awards, but in this case of 5 days, surely it could have been done

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u guys still destroyed us by 45 pts

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lol
ay 45 is still a lot

WIDI is notoriously a very random event. Don't worry about it too much, especially given the magnitude of the margin of victory.

If anything try harder at Nats to make up for it... Community hadn't placed top 10 at Nats in years

fanjiatian wrote:If anything try harder at Nats to make up for it... Community hadn't placed top 10 at Nats in years

At least they won nationals twice though.

BuildingFriend wrote:I think the more important questions now are: How will they take precedents now (2011 Heli), what they will do for heli last year, and how they can improve the quality of the tournament.

Exactly. Helicopter is going to be an event next year based off the 2 year cycle for flight events.

Congratulations to Community MS for getting 11th and West Windsor-Plainsboro HS South for getting 20th at Nats!

Hey all- just as a question for next year, and because Wirt was present for the National Tournament, will she consider changing NJ State Schedule to the National schedule like many other states have done? The limitation of bringing your state team to nationals with a team designed for a different schedule is terribly handicapping. In addition, many if not all national schedules don't have conflicts between similar subject events, which would be a great relief from this year's packed biology events into a session... just a thought.

BuildingFriend wrote:Hey all- just as a question for next year, and because Wirt was present for the National Tournament, will she consider changing NJ State Schedule to the National schedule like many other states have done? The limitation of bringing your state team to nationals with a team designed for a different schedule is terribly handicapping. In addition, many if not all national schedules don't have conflicts between similar subject events, which would be a great relief from this year's packed biology events into a session... just a thought.

I very much doubt NJ will change anything. The state directors are basically all there at every national tournament, or at least for the meetings on Sunday and Monday (I'd estimate in the range of 7-8 absent due to various factors, but that's just guesswork). Few people are willing to change long-established policy even with significant pushback.