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Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University
Posted: March 12th, 2020, 5:32 am
by theskyisred
EastStroudsburg13 wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 5:23 am
CPScienceDude wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 4:15 am
theskyisred wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 3:57 am
If it is like the year didn't exist, will they allow the old 8th graders back into the team?
5 Freshmen are allowed on any Div B team anyway.
What about allowing 3 college freshmen back on any Div C team.
That would be a bit hard to get them from College. Bus, meets, etc.
Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University
Posted: March 12th, 2020, 6:10 am
by EastStroudsburg13
theskyisred wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 5:32 am
EastStroudsburg13 wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 5:23 am
CPScienceDude wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 4:15 am
5 Freshmen are allowed on any Div B team anyway.
What about allowing 3 college freshmen back on any Div C team.
That would be a bit hard to get them from College. Bus, meets, etc.
Personally, I would more concerned with the impacts it would have on underclassmen. It would result in difficult situations where you have an experienced college student who hasn't been attending practices, and an underclassman that has been going to all practices, vying for the same spot.
Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University
Posted: March 12th, 2020, 8:31 am
by Rossyspsce
EastStroudsburg13 wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 6:10 am
theskyisred wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 5:32 am
EastStroudsburg13 wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 5:23 am
What about allowing 3 college freshmen back on any Div C team.
That would be a bit hard to get them from College. Bus, meets, etc.
Personally, I would more concerned with the impacts it would have on underclassmen. It would result in difficult situations where you have an experienced college student who hasn't been attending practices, and an underclassman that has been going to all practices, vying for the same spot.
i agree, there’s already been issues of current seniors on my team not showing up vs underclassmen who have been showing up to EVERY practice and admittedly have been catching up
Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University
Posted: March 12th, 2020, 12:27 pm
by snowyowl
CPScienceDude wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 4:15 am
theskyisred wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 3:57 am
snowyowl wrote: ↑March 11th, 2020, 6:45 pm
No, sadly I do not think that this could realistically happen.
Basically, Science Olympiads is treating this year as if it did not exist.
If it is like the year didn't exist, will they allow the old 8th graders back into the team?
5 Freshmen are allowed on any Div B team anyway.
I initially had the same thought (I am an eighth grader) but I realized that although yes, you could go back to Division B, I feel that it is better for your "Science Olympiads career" to move on to Division C, in order to familiarize yourself with some of the events and the level of testing difficulty.
Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University
Posted: March 12th, 2020, 12:58 pm
by EwwPhysics
snowyowl wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 12:27 pm
CPScienceDude wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 4:15 am
theskyisred wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 3:57 am
If it is like the year didn't exist, will they allow the old 8th graders back into the team?
5 Freshmen are allowed on any Div B team anyway.
I initially had the same thought (I am an eighth grader) but I realized that although yes, you could go back to Division B, I feel that it is better for your "Science Olympiads career" to move on to Division C, in order to familiarize yourself with some of the events and the level of testing difficulty.
I agree... I know that it's common practice for many 9th graders to come back to div B, but in my opinion it's better to move on to div C, not only for your "Science Olympiad career" but for your own enjoyment. At this point, doing another year of division B events wouldn't be nearly as fun or challenging for me anymore.
Also, I know it isn't always like this, but it probably sometimes gets to the point where there are 5 9th graders completely carrying the team, which takes some of the fun out of it for the younger team members.
Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University
Posted: March 12th, 2020, 3:23 pm
by snowyowl
EwwPhysics wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 12:58 pm
snowyowl wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 12:27 pm
CPScienceDude wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 4:15 am
5 Freshmen are allowed on any Div B team anyway.
I initially had the same thought (I am an eighth grader) but I realized that although yes, you could go back to Division B, I feel that it is better for your "Science Olympiads career" to move on to Division C, in order to familiarize yourself with some of the events and the level of testing difficulty.
I agree... I know that it's common practice for many 9th graders to come back to div B, but in my opinion it's better to move on to div C, not only for your "Science Olympiad career" but for your own enjoyment. At this point, doing another year of division B events wouldn't be nearly as fun or challenging for me anymore.
Also, I know it isn't always like this, but it probably sometimes gets to the point where there are 5 9th graders completely carrying the team, which takes some of the fun out of it for the younger team members.
Yes, my school has never accepted ninth graders on a Division B team, for the reasons that you mentioned.
Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University
Posted: March 12th, 2020, 6:51 pm
by Frost0125
snowyowl wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 3:23 pm
EwwPhysics wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 12:58 pm
snowyowl wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 12:27 pm
I initially had the same thought (I am an eighth grader) but I realized that although yes, you could go back to Division B, I feel that it is better for your "Science Olympiads career" to move on to Division C, in order to familiarize yourself with some of the events and the level of testing difficulty.
I agree... I know that it's common practice for many 9th graders to come back to div B, but in my opinion it's better to move on to div C, not only for your "Science Olympiad career" but for your own enjoyment. At this point, doing another year of division B events wouldn't be nearly as fun or challenging for me anymore.
Also, I know it isn't always like this, but it probably sometimes gets to the point where there are 5 9th graders completely carrying the team, which takes some of the fun out of it for the younger team members.
Yes, my school has never accepted ninth graders on a Division B team, for the reasons that you mentioned.
The great debate on my team is if the eighth graders come back. My coach said she feels uncomfortable using the ninth grader rule any other season, but would make and exception for this year. I personally wouldn't want to come back b/c I want to do Scioly at my high school, but I feel like there will be many teams using this rule next year. Also, we put two eight graders on events that weren't coming back so we have a whole new problem there.
Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University
Posted: March 13th, 2020, 4:42 am
by theskyisred
Frost0125 wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 6:51 pm
snowyowl wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 3:23 pm
EwwPhysics wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 12:58 pm
I agree... I know that it's common practice for many 9th graders to come back to div B, but in my opinion, it's better to move on to div C, not only for your "Science Olympiad career" but for your own enjoyment. At this point, doing another year of division B events wouldn't be near as fun or challenging for me anymore.
Also, I know it isn't always like this, but it probably sometimes gets to the point where there are 5 9th graders completely carrying the team, which takes some of the fun out of it for the younger team members.
Yes, my school has never accepted ninth-graders on a Division B team, for the reasons that you mentioned.
The great debate on my team is if the eighth graders come back. My coach said she feels uncomfortable using the ninth-grader rule any other season, but would make an exception for this year. I personally wouldn't want to come back b/c I want to do Scioly at my high school, but I feel like there will be many teams using this rule next year. Also, we put two eighth-graders on events that weren't coming back so we have a whole new problem there.
We just bring in high schoolers from previous years to coach us.
Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University
Posted: March 13th, 2020, 7:40 am
by Frost0125
theskyisred wrote: ↑March 13th, 2020, 4:42 am
Frost0125 wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 6:51 pm
snowyowl wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 3:23 pm
Yes, my school has never accepted ninth-graders on a Division B team, for the reasons that you mentioned.
The great debate on my team is if the eighth graders come back. My coach said she feels uncomfortable using the ninth-grader rule any other season, but would make an exception for this year. I personally wouldn't want to come back b/c I want to do Scioly at my high school, but I feel like there will be many teams using this rule next year. Also, we put two eighth-graders on events that weren't coming back so we have a whole new problem there.
We just bring in high schoolers from previous years to coach us.
I think that is wha most of the kids will do on my team
Re: 2020 National Tournament: North Carolina State University
Posted: March 13th, 2020, 7:48 am
by Umaroth
Frost0125 wrote: ↑March 13th, 2020, 7:40 am
theskyisred wrote: ↑March 13th, 2020, 4:42 am
Frost0125 wrote: ↑March 12th, 2020, 6:51 pm
The great debate on my team is if the eighth graders come back. My coach said she feels uncomfortable using the ninth-grader rule any other season, but would make an exception for this year. I personally wouldn't want to come back b/c I want to do Scioly at my high school, but I feel like there will be many teams using this rule next year. Also, we put two eighth-graders on events that weren't coming back so we have a whole new problem there.
We just bring in high schoolers from previous years to coach us.
I think that is wha most of the kids will do on my team
I competed in Division B last year as a ninth grader because I joined in January of eighth grade and I didn't feel like I had enough experience to make the Div C team since I go to Troy. At Kraemer, we've never had more than two ninth graders in a year. There are many good reasons to come back to Division B, such as the leadership opportunity and not being ready for Division C.