2020 LISO Invitational (Long Island, NY) Div B & C

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some thoughts:
Astro (4): DSO section was a joke. Nothing more to say about that. Conceptual question had some nice CMB questions, and the math seemed good (I didn't look at most of it), but I think we screwed up the 7 point q that involved vis viva (at least I think it involved vis viva). Like there was some good questions but not enough to seperate teams. 7.5/10
Code (1): Test was pretty good. Nothing exceptional although idk is it possible to make a exceptional code test? Anyways nothing wrong with the questions itself (I couldn't get one pollux although apparently other ppl did get it and it made sense). We apparently solved either 1:13 or 1:18 (not sure which) and missed one pollux and one bacon assuming we didn't screw anything up. Test lacked rsas and whatever but it's supposed to be mostly regionals level anyways. Having all 72 teams do code at once was prob a huge challenge and they managed to do it well (rip teams that came in late). Given circumstances 9.5/10
Fossils (13): We did know most IDs (hopefully?) and apparently other teams thought it was really easy. A couple of specimens (2 I think) came late and they just gave the answers to them. Everything else almost all mult choice or matching and while they were somewhat challenging (at least for us), it made it feel a bit luck based? Anyways I need to keep working on this event lol. 8/10
Orni (10): I was just filling in this event because normally code conflict (rip). 20 stations with average 3-4 q per station is just too short to differenciate teams. Pic ID wasn't really that hard either and I think we got all of them. However we missed 2/4 calls (the ones we got mallard and great horned were kinda obvious), and I think missing anything would've really sunk your score. The room was also way too packed with people. 7/10
Also a side note orni and fossils had the same test for both div. It probably wasn't made too hard because div B has to take the same tests.
Award ceremony: 0/10 They started an hour and a half later then expected. We had enough time to order food for everyone before it started. Many teams were leaving because they weren't willing to stay that long.
They did have mild scantron issues (almost resorted to manual grading some of them) but they were figured out quickly. I heard there was 6 graders grading at the same time for some events. I think the problem is just the sheer number of teams that went (who decided to invite like 120 teams over wtf).
As TCC stated the events were run fine (although a bit easy at times. I guess it is meant for regionals level comp) although awards were bad. Like 8.5/10 for all parts of the comp besides awards.
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Name wrote: December 7th, 2019, 7:06 pm some thoughts:
Astro (4): DSO section was a joke. Nothing more to say about that. Conceptual question had some nice CMB questions, and the math seemed good (I didn't look at most of it), but I think we screwed up the 7 point q that involved vis viva (at least I think it involved vis viva). Like there was some good questions but not enough to seperate teams. 7.5/10
Code (1): Test was pretty good. Nothing exceptional although idk is it possible to make a exceptional code test? Anyways nothing wrong with the questions itself (I couldn't get one pollux although apparently other ppl did get it and it made sense). We apparently solved either 1:13 or 1:18 (not sure which) and missed one pollux and one bacon assuming we didn't screw anything up. Test lacked rsas and whatever but it's supposed to be mostly regionals level anyways. Having all 72 teams do code at once was prob a huge challenge and they managed to do it well (rip teams that came in late). Given circumstances 9.5/10
Fossils (13): We did know most IDs (hopefully?) and apparently other teams thought it was really easy. A couple of specimens (2 I think) came late and they just gave the answers to them. Everything else almost all mult choice or matching and while they were somewhat challenging (at least for us), it made it feel a bit luck based? Anyways I need to keep working on this event lol. 8/10
Orni (10): I was just filling in this event because normally code conflict (rip). 20 stations with average 3-4 q per station is just too short to differenciate teams. Pic ID wasn't really that hard either and I think we got all of them. However we missed 2/4 calls (the ones we got mallard and great horned were kinda obvious), and I think missing anything would've really sunk your score. The room was also way too packed with people. 7/10
Also a side note orni and fossils had the same test for both div. It probably wasn't made too hard because div B has to take the same tests.
Award ceremony: 0/10 They started an hour and a half later then expected. We had enough time to order food for everyone before it started. Many teams were leaving because they weren't willing to stay that long.
They did have mild scantron issues (almost resorted to manual grading some of them) but they were figured out quickly. I heard there was 6 graders grading at the same time for some events. I think the problem is just the sheer number of teams that went (who decided to invite like 120 teams over wtf).
As TCC stated the events were run fine (although a bit easy at times. I guess it is meant for regionals level comp) although awards were bad. Like 8.5/10 for all parts of the comp besides awards.
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lavarball wrote: December 7th, 2019, 7:42 pmwow
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Astro (1): maybe i'm just bad but the only thing we I lost points on was DSOs (referring to Name's post) mainly for being unspecific about answers. Actual ID was easy, but nothing that you really had to think about on the whole test. (5/10)

DyPlan (7): The test was pretty easy, hmmm and i are just bad. one thing i noticed was that the proctors seemed to have no clue about the event they were proctoring. (4/10)

GeoMapping (7): most new topic to me, imo the test was decent, covered a lot of topics. some of the questions were sketchily worded though, but good. (7/10)

Overall (1): honestly have been pretty indifferent about the whole invy and the events bc its my first (div c) one, but it seemed organized and well done, aside from the huge delay to awards (hey at least we got home late) 8/10
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LiteralRhinoceros wrote: December 7th, 2019, 8:07 pm Astro (1): maybe i'm just bad but the only thing we I lost points on was DSOs (referring to Name's post) mainly for being unspecific about answers. Actual ID was easy, but nothing that you really had to think about on the whole test. (5/10)
Congrats on winning! I haven't seen my test yet but personally I went into extreme detail explaining the DSOs because we had the time to. I think I might've lost a point or two on m87 though, I wasn't fully sure of one or two things (it was very large array right?). Full scoring everything else is very impressive though!
Also I thought the CMB stuff was somewhat thought provoking (idk if my answer was even right) although it was only 2 qs. Also the first 3 IDs were literally the first 3 dsos...
As a side note I tried test running using a binder over a laptop. Honestly I feel like a laptop vs binder is almost the same thing. Binder is prob faster, but speed isn't really a issue here lol.
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Anyone know what the actual mass ratios were for machines C? I would like to compare my calculations with the actual values.
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shrewdPanther46 wrote: December 7th, 2019, 8:29 pm Anyone know what the actual mass ratios were for machines C? I would like to compare my calculations with the actual values.
bruh if anything everyone else should be comparing to you lmao
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