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a dove's beak seems sharper...there are also differences in color and a dove's tail seems longer too

Yeah, I think dove's have "sharp" tails, and pigeons have... flatter/more squared off tails?!?!?

crabnebula143 wrote:Yeah, I think dove's have "sharp" tails, and pigeons have... flatter/more squared off tails?!?!?

the pigeons have less chiseled tails?

It might just be the picture, but the dove has a black spot on its neck.

it might just be the pic, because one of the doves doesn't look like it has a spot.

they seem to have different coloration and eye color and different feet shapes

Gosh, I hope they always give us color pictures... Once at regionals for Amph & Rep, the procotor gave us black and white ones.

It'd be really hard to tell some of the birds apart if it weren't for coloration. (Of course, I know color isn't a very good thing to base most identifications off of because of lighting and constrast and color quality and all that, but it's a good place to start an identification...)

wouldnt it be a huge problem of u got black and white pictures for amphibians and reptiles. (Snake I.D)

no not really for reptile it is actually better to know the patterns rather than the colors when you are I.Ding something

going back to birds, have they put out the reccomended field guide for birds. im just curious