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JZhang1 wrote:Lets have a topic on SUCCESSFUL DESIGNS, DESIGN RELATED ISSUES, and all things design related.
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That is really good, like nats first place level, but you're from Cali so not surprising. Any tips from your tower?
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nicksalanitri wrote:
JZhang1 wrote:Lets have a topic on SUCCESSFUL DESIGNS, DESIGN RELATED ISSUES, and all things design related.

Hi im from Division B in California, with my tower design were averaging 3,800 efficiency, i can email you my design if you would like.

CORRECTION i said 3800 but meant 2800 sorry for the confusion.
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nicksalanitri wrote:
nicksalanitri wrote:
JZhang1 wrote:Lets have a topic on SUCCESSFUL DESIGNS, DESIGN RELATED ISSUES, and all things design related.

Hi im from Division B in California, with my tower design were averaging 3,800 efficiency, i can email you my design if you would like.

CORRECTION i said 3800 but meant 2800 sorry for the confusion.
Id be interested to see your design
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nicksalanitri wrote:
nicksalanitri wrote:
JZhang1 wrote:Lets have a topic on SUCCESSFUL DESIGNS, DESIGN RELATED ISSUES, and all things design related.

Hi im from Division B in California, with my tower design were averaging 3,800 efficiency, i can email you my design if you would like.

CORRECTION i said 3800 but meant 2800 sorry for the confusion.
2800 is great. Would be interested in seeing your design
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I'm starting to wonder if the bonus is really worth the trouble. I've seen/heard of several top-level towers without the bonus.
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0ddrenaline wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the bonus is really worth the trouble. I've seen/heard of several top-level towers without the bonus.
Yup, so have I.
I think, but am not sure, its close. Posted some calcs a while back indicating it is, but continuing to think. I'm sure it is for a ladders and Xs approach, but may tip the other way on other bracing configurations. A key limitation the wider stance introduces is longer bracing toward the bottom, meaning brace pieces need to be stronger (i.e., heavier).
So when/if new insights, I'll post.
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Balsa Man wrote:
0ddrenaline wrote:I'm starting to wonder if the bonus is really worth the trouble. I've seen/heard of several top-level towers without the bonus.
Yup, so have I.
I think, but am not sure, its close. Posted some calcs a while back indicating it is, but continuing to think. I'm sure it is for a ladders and Xs approach, but may tip the other way on other bracing configurations. A key limitation the wider stance introduces is longer bracing toward the bottom, meaning brace pieces need to be stronger (i.e., heavier).
So when/if new insights, I'll post.
I feel like bonus really isn't worth it, because when you get down to so 5,4 grams, a slight shift in the denominator will dramatically impact the score, as in just moving the numerator up 2kg, its really a hassle. Felt bad about and it may not be worth it for only 2kg.
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What do you gues use for the legs? We use 1/8 squared balsa but I feel like it's inadequate
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freed2003 wrote:What do you gues use for the legs? We use 1/8 squared balsa but I feel like it's inadequate
For the most part, people stick to 1/8, or 3/32. The thing is, if you go above 1/8, your going to have to use a really low density stick to achieve high scores, using a higher density, lower mass stick may prevent lots of problems such as the wood and glue tearing off when pressure is put.
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