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MysterySkye04 wrote:Has a rule sheet for Mystery Design been made, and if so, where can I find it?
EDIT: Nvm, I found it. Though, I'm confused on what you have to do.

Confusing here too. I emailed this question - "When will the rules for Mystery Design be available? I noticed the event overview page and have an idea of what the event is, but the official rules/specs seem necessary to start practicing." and received this response: "The rules that will be used for Mystery Design are on our website under the "tournaments" tab and in the drop down section of "Division B". There you will see a table of all the events. The rules are in the "resources" section of that table." on October 5th. Not very helpful.

So basically, this is all we have to go with: http://www.newyorkscioly.org/wp-content ... BDpost.pdf Rule 2.a is critical - "Supervisors will provide a plush toy and announce, at least two weeks prior to a competition, its approximate dimensions along with the structure design parameters and materials..." I'm hoping that this will be standardized for all Regional tournaments across the state. I'm assuming that many people will have the same question, and after the coaches conference on 10/21-10/22, we'll get some answers.

SPP SciO wrote:

MysterySkye04 wrote:Has a rule sheet for Mystery Design been made, and if so, where can I find it?
EDIT: Nvm, I found it. Though, I'm confused on what you have to do.

Confusing here too. I emailed this question - "When will the rules for Mystery Design be available? I noticed the event overview page and have an idea of what the event is, but the official rules/specs seem necessary to start practicing." and received this response: "The rules that will be used for Mystery Design are on our website under the "tournaments" tab and in the drop down section of "Division B". There you will see a table of all the events. The rules are in the "resources" section of that table." on October 5th. Not very helpful.

So basically, this is all we have to go with: http://www.newyorkscioly.org/wp-content ... BDpost.pdf Rule 2.a is critical - "Supervisors will provide a plush toy and announce, at least two weeks prior to a competition, its approximate dimensions along with the structure design parameters and materials..." I'm hoping that this will be standardized for all Regional tournaments across the state. I'm assuming that many people will have the same question, and after the coaches conference on 10/21-10/22, we'll get some answers.

Hopefully, but it's that what exactly do you have to do? It seems like you're building something, but it says "Supervisors will provide a plush toy and announce, at least two weeks prior to a competition, its approximate dimensions along with the structure design parameters and materials, so will you have to start two weeks prior to the competition, or what? (Sorry if I'm getting ahead of myself, I know it's new, so you won't know much)

MysterySkye04 wrote: Hopefully, but it's that what exactly do you have to do? It seems like you're building something, but it says "Supervisors will provide a plush toy and announce, at least two weeks prior to a competition, its approximate dimensions along with the structure design parameters and materials, so will you have to start two weeks prior to the competition, or what? (Sorry if I'm getting ahead of myself, I know it's new, so you won't know much)

Well, there's two components - approximately 1/3 of the points comes from the technical drawing and rationale, and 2/3 comes from the on-site build. It seems like it has the potential to be really cool; I'm just hoping those parameters are released months, not weeks, before the competition. But I suppose that's the "Mystery" component of it! It's not like other engineering events, where the winning designs will have a lot of elements in common - I feel like this is more whimsical, more creative; the highest scores will go to those that max out the rubric, not the ones with the "best" design. I think that introducing kids to technical drawings and maybe setting them up with some AutoCAD type software is the only way to prep for this event, for now.

SPP SciO wrote:

MysterySkye04 wrote: Hopefully, but it's that what exactly do you have to do? It seems like you're building something, but it says "Supervisors will provide a plush toy and announce, at least two weeks prior to a competition, its approximate dimensions along with the structure design parameters and materials, so will you have to start two weeks prior to the competition, or what? (Sorry if I'm getting ahead of myself, I know it's new, so you won't know much)

Well, there's two components - approximately 1/3 of the points comes from the technical drawing and rationale, and 2/3 comes from the on-site build. It seems like it has the potential to be really cool; I'm just hoping those parameters are released months, not weeks, before the competition. But I suppose that's the "Mystery" component of it! It's not like other engineering events, where the winning designs will have a lot of elements in common - I feel like this is more whimsical, more creative; the highest scores will go to those that max out the rubric, not the ones with the "best" design. I think that introducing kids to technical drawings and maybe setting them up with some AutoCAD type software is the only way to prep for this event, for now.

Exactly, and hopefully it's not too difficult because if one of my events is taken by someone else or I have two at the same time, I'll see if I can do Mystery Design. I mean, my user name has "mystery" in it, so it could mean this is my event.
Besides that, tomorrow starts SO practices at my school, so I'm preparing my binder and seeing what schools are entering.

So is anyone willing to explain the regional tournament system in New York? I'm unable to find any information on it, even anything as simple as open vs. closed (although I suspect the latter).

Unome wrote:So is anyone willing to explain the regional tournament system in New York? I'm unable to find any information on it, even anything as simple as open vs. closed (although I suspect the latter).

I don't know what open vs. closed means, but, as far as I can tell: the state is divided into 11 geographical regions, each consisting of one or more counties. When a school registers with the State organization, they are assigned to a region based on the school's address. Each region sends a certain number of schools to the state competition, which is a proportion of the total number of schools registered. Pretty sure that's accurate info but I'm not certain.

SPP SciO wrote:

Unome wrote:So is anyone willing to explain the regional tournament system in New York? I'm unable to find any information on it, even anything as simple as open vs. closed (although I suspect the latter).

I don't know what open vs. closed means, but, as far as I can tell: the state is divided into 11 geographical regions, each consisting of one or more counties. When a school registers with the State organization, they are assigned to a region based on the school's address. Each region sends a certain number of schools to the state competition, which is a proportion of the total number of schools registered. Pretty sure that's accurate info but I'm not certain.

Ok, so closed then. How would I, being from outside the state, find the region boundaries? (<-- that's really what I'm interested in, since it's hard to understand where all these regions are for me)

Unome wrote:

SPP SciO wrote:

Unome wrote:So is anyone willing to explain the regional tournament system in New York? I'm unable to find any information on it, even anything as simple as open vs. closed (although I suspect the latter).

I don't know what open vs. closed means, but, as far as I can tell: the state is divided into 11 geographical regions, each consisting of one or more counties. When a school registers with the State organization, they are assigned to a region based on the school's address. Each region sends a certain number of schools to the state competition, which is a proportion of the total number of schools registered. Pretty sure that's accurate info but I'm not certain.

Ok, so closed then. How would I, being from outside the state, find the region boundaries? (<-- that's really what I'm interested in, since it's hard to understand where all these regions are for me)

That much, I don't know. But there's a spreadsheet of the different teams state results over the years, that can give you some clues - http://scioly.org/wiki/images/c/ca/Exce ... _2016.xlsx

So does anyone have Cornell results?

Unome wrote:So does anyone have Cornell results?

Here are the final results:
http://www.ezratech.us/competition/corn ... 17/results