Cypress Falls

[Adi1008]

Basically it allows the team building decisions to be fair because if teams were stacked for Cy-Falls what would the teams be based upon?

Wouldn't it be by the tryout test?

[MyMomIsOkra]

Basically it allows the team building decisions to be fair because if teams were stacked for Cy-Falls what would the teams be based upon?

Wouldn't it be by the tryout test?

Using cyfalls gives another point of consideration, which is good because people can screw up on tests and basing decisions off one time might not be the best idea

[Adi1008]

Basically it allows the team building decisions to be fair because if teams were stacked for Cy-Falls what would the teams be based upon?

Wouldn't it be by the tryout test?

Using cyfalls gives another point of consideration, which is good because people can screw up on tests and basing decisions off one time might not be the best idea

That's a good point. Thanks

[MyMomIsOkra]

Wouldn't it be by the tryout test?

Using cyfalls gives another point of consideration, which is good because people can screw up on tests and basing decisions off one time might not be the best idea

That's a good point. Thanks

Ya, and like varunscs11 mentioned earlier, LASA doesn't choose teams until later anyways, so this works well for them.

[windu34]

My team (Boca Raton) never competes with unstacked teams. Members for teams are picked based on work ethic (almost all work is done after school in the coaches classroom) and based on performance from previous competitions (the previous year at nats weighing the most).
Sophmores/freshman can make the A team if the put in the effort, but it isn't too common (we have no feeder school with a scioly team)
I can see why teams may choose to compete with unstacked teams though...

[Uber]

My team (Boca Raton) never competes with unstacked teams. Members for teams are picked based on work ethic (almost all work is done after school in the coaches classroom) and based on performance from previous competitions (the previous year at nats weighing the most).
Sophmores/freshman can make the A team if the put in the effort, but it isn't too common (we have no feeder school with a scioly team)
I can see why teams may choose to compete with unstacked teams though...

I mean, another reason is to just get people to try out Scio, instead of spending time one something they might not enjoy in the first place. If they find preparing and going to tournaments too stressful or boring, they didn't have to spend time getting into a stacked team, and instead just had to sign up. Also, experienced people would dominate the stacked team (I'm the only first-year person going to MIT), and potentially good recruits wouldn't get the chance to compete.

[MyMomIsOkra]

My team (Boca Raton) never competes with unstacked teams. Members for teams are picked based on work ethic (almost all work is done after school in the coaches classroom) and based on performance from previous competitions (the previous year at nats weighing the most).
Sophmores/freshman can make the A team if the put in the effort, but it isn't too common (we have no feeder school with a scioly team)
I can see why teams may choose to compete with unstacked teams though...

Interesting, when do you select your team then? If you choose your team before cyfalls, how can students with no previous experience prove themselves?

[varunscs11]

Actually what Boca Raton does was the method of selecting the team the Kealing. Essentially the coaches would pick the A team based off of results as well as off of experience and how often they practices (work ethic). What I found with this method is that often times those who are phenomenal at an event but never come to practice (because they don't need it) are not placed on the team. For example on Crime Busters my previous parter was taken off because she did not come to practice enough even though she competed with me the year before and medalled with me. I don't know if this is how windu's school does it but I just wanted to give my experience of this method.


And to answer your question Okra, I would guess that they could prove themself by demonstrating their work to the coach.

[MyMomIsOkra]

Actually what Boca Raton does was the method of selecting the team the Kealing. Essentially the coaches would pick the A team based off of results as well as off of experience and how often they practices (work ethic). What I found with this method is that often times those who are phenomenal at an event but never come to practice (because they don't need it) are not placed on the team. For example on Crime Busters my previous parter was taken off because she did not come to practice enough even though she competed with me the year before and medalled with me. I don't know if this is how windu's school does it but I just wanted to give my experience of this method.


And to answer your question Okra, I would guess that they could prove themself by demonstrating their work to the coach.

Hmm, but it looks like then it's up to the coach's subjective idea of who should be on the team based on who does more work... personally, I would prefer the objective method of allowing students to just attend invitationals and prove themselves in competition.

[windu34]

Actually what Boca Raton does was the method of selecting the team the Kealing. Essentially the coaches would pick the A team based off of results as well as off of experience and how often they practices (work ethic). What I found with this method is that often times those who are phenomenal at an event but never come to practice (because they don't need it) are not placed on the team. For example on Crime Busters my previous parter was taken off because she did not come to practice enough even though she competed with me the year before and medalled with me. I don't know if this is how windu's school does it but I just wanted to give my experience of this method.


And to answer your question Okra, I would guess that they could prove themself by demonstrating their work to the coach.

varunscs11 is pretty much on point. My coach as well as many of the "captains" (we don't have official captains) feel that regardless how "good" someone is at an event, effort is more important(there are isolated cases where there have been studiers on our A team that are just really good, but its relatively rare).
For builders, it is very easy to pick the A team because you can just simulate competition pretty closely at school plus building is 90% effort and 10% design (IMO).

Hmm, but it looks like then it's up to the coach's subjective idea of who should be on the team based on who does more work... personally, I would prefer the objective method of allowing students to just attend invitationals and prove themselves in competition.

My coach is very objective in his descisions so in our case, I feel it is very fair. Stuff goes wrong at competitions; it happens. We only go to two invites a year (cypress and MIT) so we couldn't really bring all 4 teams to texas unstacked to let everyone compete (there really are no invitationals in Florida)
It would be unfair to judge students off of one competition in our case